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More abuse of taxpayer money ?

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  1. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    DAWN News: Govt will pay Rs45bn to ease energy crisis

    Saturday, 13 Mar, 2010
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    Prime Minister Gilani has asked the ministry of petroleum and natural resources to present the Pakistan-Iran gas pipeline project to the cabinet on Wednesday. –Photo by APP

    ISLAMABAD: The government decided on Friday to immediately release Rs45 billion to Pakistan State Oil, power companies and refineries to scale down rising circular debt which was causing an oil, gas and electricity crisis in the country.

    The decision was taken at a special meeting called by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani to ward off an imminent default in foreign payments against oil supplies.

    The prime minister asked the ministry of petroleum and natural resources to present the Pakistan-Iran gas pipeline project to the cabinet on Wednesday.

    An official said the finance ministry had been ordered to release Rs2 billion to PSO on Saturday, followed by Rs9 billion on April 2 and another Rs34 billion before April 30 through different sources, including issuance of Rs15 billion term finance certificates (TFCs) to the banking sector.

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    (1) More abuse, continued abuse of taxpayer money ?
    (2) What's going on ?
    (3) For how long will this go on ?
    (4) For how long will this be tolerated ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 14 Mar 2010 16:58 #

  2. junaid
    Member

    aik tau yeh samujh nahi ata kai tax laitay kiyon hain jubh kuch bhi nahi kartay siwaee loot maar kai.
    jubh tak musharaf kai baqiaat ki hakomat rahay gi yahee hoga.

    Posted 1 year ago on 14 Mar 2010 22:58 #

  3. RajputPuttar
    Member

    I think this money was owed by electricity distribution company (which are state entities) and since these comapnies are not able to generate enough revenue as well as govt is subsidizing the electricity prices, thats why the govt has released this money to private IPPs and oil suplliers.

    I don't see any prolbem in that. In fact, govt should clear this circular debt but due to fiscal constraints ,its not able to do so.

    Mr.Juanid,

    I think there around 2-3 million govt employees which are paid salaires apart from govt schools and hospitals and all the infrastructue work thats going on. On top of that , for the ego satisfaction of religous fanats , we have to feed 'ROUGE ARMY' which sucks the major chunk of our taxes.

    Posted 1 year ago on 15 Mar 2010 10:59 #

  4. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    O! great!. First Govt. officials will do full! scale corruption in state owned companies. Then they'll shove taxpayer money into the fray.

    ..and then we have some people tell us, that since the company subsidized a lot it couldn't make ends meat.

    How charming. Now subsidies are the reason why we are having this problem.

    I can't stop laughing.

    Posted 1 year ago on 15 Mar 2010 13:02 #

  5. RajputPuttar
    Member

    u can do whatever u want but doesn't change the facts.

    Posted 1 year ago on 15 Mar 2010 20:43 #

  6. Beenai
    Moderator

    when the nation has been awarded a President called Mr 10% .
    it should forgot about its tax money forever .

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Mar 2010 5:14 #

  7. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Time and again, it came to my attention that Mr. 10% has been extorting money from businesses in Pakistan. Gourmet chain, Ufone and other mobile operators, etc etc.

    That is also why their rates of service have increased in these last 2 years.

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Mar 2010 5:27 #

  8. KHAN_Sahib
    Member

    And now the load shedding hours are increased again! Well done!
    These B A S T AR D Ministers have been claiming to end load shedding for past year but nothing has been done so far except new dead lines!

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Mar 2010 19:03 #

  9. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Beenai & Harris

    Do u know that what circular debt problem is at all ?

    Before bashing zardari or present governemnt, please have a look at the following link as well.

    http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Business/22-Jan-2009/Circular-debt-exceeds-Rs300b-in-Nov-08

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 1:27 #

  10. Raavi
    Member

    "aik tau yeh samujh nahi ata kai tax laitay kiyon hain jubh kuch bhi nahi kartay siwaee loot maar kai."

    Lo itni mehnat sai assemply main kiyoon ayai. Yar ye tax ham aur aap se laikar swiss accounts ko bharna hai bhai.

    There is only one use of our tax money.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 15:31 #

  11. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @RajputPuttar: Don't give me this BS! of excuses. Keep! them. You'll need them for yourself.

    I know better.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 18:15 #

  12. choosy
    Member

    Q:awam kay nmainday kion chunaye jatay hain?

    A:Takay awam khud select karaein kay unka pasia kon khaye ga?

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2010 6:31 #

  13. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Harriskhan

    This is what there is no answre is avalable.

    What do u know ? Do u deny this newsitem ?

    Aur abb mein sakht jawab doon gaa . Pata naahhi kaaisaey kaaisey loog yaahan par aa jatey haain. --- kaa pata nahi aur baatain karain gaaey ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2010 6:37 #

  14. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @RajputPuttar: There are answers. I could write books on them.

    Its just that I'm not putting up details of the answer here.

    That is why you have this opportunity to speak. If I put up the answer, there will be no place where you can hide your face from the shame, that will become your fate.

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2010 7:16 #

  15. RajputPuttar
    Member

    If u had anything , u would have done so far.

    Keep this BS crap with yourself.

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2010 7:28 #

  16. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Circular debt is your only argument, right ?

    Previous Govt. of Pakistan says, we cleared circular debt when we were going out.

    So, what happened since then ? What happened in these last two years that is making circular debt pile up ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2010 7:42 #

  17. RajputPuttar
    Member

    http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Business/22-Jan-2009/Circular-debt-exceeds-Rs300b-in-Nov-08

    IF u can't read then what i can do.

    According to above news item , the circular debt in June 2008 was around 200B.

    Who said that previous govt.had cleared the circular debt ? CAn u plz quote the newsitem ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2010 14:26 #

  18. choosy
    Member

    jab piayar kiya tou darna kiya ?
    jab ZARDARI aya tou Tax money ka sochna kiya ?:):):)

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 9:04 #

  19. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @choosy: Agar aap ne fikar nahi karni, sochna nahi hai, to phir is dunya main kya karne ae ho ?

    Wapas! jao ALLAH ke paas, shab-baash!

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 9:20 #

  20. choosy
    Member

    @Haris bhai ,
    mein tou jub bulawa aya chala jayon ga .
    aap batayein .apkay kiya plans hain?

    no2..soch soch kay aap ne abtak kiya kiya ????

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 9:37 #

  21. RajputPuttar
    Member

    http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Business/22-Jan-2009/Circular-debt-exceeds-Rs300b-in-Nov-08

    IF u can't read then what i can do.

    According to above news item , the circular debt in June 2008 was around 200B.

    Who said that previous govt.had cleared the circular debt ? CAn u plz quote the newsitem ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 11:03 #

  22. choosy
    Member

    aik baat batein Rajputt bhai ..
    aap qadam qadam pe PPP ko kion defend karna shuru kartay hain ???
    thak jayein gay ...kionkay PPP k defend karna pahar torrna hay bhai jee...:):):)

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 11:09 #

  23. RajputPuttar
    Member

    choosy

    Its not matter of defending PPP.

    If the reference i gave is wrong , then u can say that. I m not mainpulating the facts, just presenting as it is.

    FYI, i am a staunch opponetn of PPPP. A few days earlier , on another thread i was tagged as NS man by some gentleman from PTI.

    Bahiyaa, why we can't have differing views which may align to other parties at time ??

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 11:15 #

  24. choosy
    Member

    Rajputt bhai ,
    i was saying kay Tax money ka ghum kaisa ,jub President ho ZArdari jaisa???
    iss mein konse ghalat baat ho gaye jo aap jaldi se khafa ho kay beth gaye ???

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 13:28 #

  25. RajputPuttar
    Member

    choosy

    Why zardari ? All the generals r farishtas ? HOw a grade 20/22 general / brid ends up with property worth of crores ?

    Don't u see that ?

    And again i request u to talk in the context of this thread.

    Its very easy to bash XYZ but lets be logical .

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 15:19 #

  26. RajputPuttar
    Member

    yahan saay bhi eik jhootaa aadmi bahgaa how haai. kaal say intizar kar rahaa hoon .

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 16:12 #

  27. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @RajputPuttar: ALL you crave is worthless, result-less, endless word brawls. That's all.

    - Who collects taxes from people of Pakistan ?
    - Who is abusing taxpayer money ?
    - Who holds power ?
    - Who holds the responsibility for establishing rule of LAW in this nation ?
    - Who holds the responsibility to hold people accountable for their decisions, their actions in this nation ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 18:28 #

  28. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Harris,

    U said that previous govt had cleared this circular debt. I have given u proof that u r lying.

    Don't make blunt lies . It won't help your cuase but damaage your credility which is already negative.

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Mar 2010 3:26 #

  29. choosy
    Member

    @Rajputt bhai sahib,
    mein thread pe to the point baat kar raha hon.
    yahan tax money ka topic hay ,aur mein ussi ki baat kar rahah hon..

    raha Generals kay corrupt honay ka ,yes they are corrupt.
    but they are not the public reps out of public votes.
    but Govt is public rep ,so public has a right to ask about tax money with Zardari...

    no2..public has given the accountability responsibility to Govt to have a check and balance on army.
    if Govt is itself corrupt ;how we can expect them to make accountable these corrupt Generals ????

    aaye meri logic samjh ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Mar 2010 6:16 #

  30. latentry
    Member

    This guy Haris khan is a Grade A idiot always talks bollocks

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Mar 2010 11:26 #

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