@ hariskhan,
u know very well what i mean and u know very well that ur JI is nothing more than a 3rd century caveman society raising terrorists. Shoo now! "Sorry" for not using harsh language against JI. Its only coz this forum doesnt allow me to!
@ hariskhan,
u know very well what i mean and u know very well that ur JI is nothing more than a 3rd century caveman society raising terrorists. Shoo now! "Sorry" for not using harsh language against JI. Its only coz this forum doesnt allow me to!
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@sasherwani: Another 'unsubstantiated' 'allegation' ? Compounding one wrongdoing with another ?
This .. is neither a wise, nor a 'just' 'course of action'.
By the way, why don't you believe in 'settling' disputes through the court of law ?
so HK finally and reluctantly admits that jamaat-e-islami supports and participates in democratic system because:
How about if I claim one of the good religious groups have done by taking part in 'democratic' politics, is that it has stopped this nation from being forced to adhere to 'secularism', against their will ?
i find the reason " stopping the nation from being forced to adhere to secularism against there will" quite amusing :)
if a party of thugs who is busy looting a shop some religious party joins in so that looted items are utilized for a good cause!
ends do not justify means my dear, please start working to make jamaat not only realize their mistake but also try to get them out of it
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@Salam: (1) I never said JI 'supports' the unjust. I said JI takes part in democratic process.
I put forward an argument for discussion. The argument may fail according to merits of discussion.
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(2) Brother, remember these words. Because, I will. I hope the rest of this nation also will.
For when the time of bloody revolution comes, and if I don't find you in its fore-front, I'll personally drag (or send) you to your death, for your 'double standards', your 'hypocr|sy', for not living up to your words.
For this is what you are adamant on, for the many, without looking at, without adjusting this strategy, for the situation at hand, in this era.
Through these words, you have given me and every other citizen of this nation .. the 'license to kill' you, if we find you having 'double standards', 'hypocr|sy' as far as this way of going about this matter is concerned.
I am a man of principles. I openly accept my mistakes, crimes.
..and I standby my words.
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(3) You have still avoided answering all of my questions.
It shows where you stand. You 'propose' others to adopt a strategy, which you yourself don't own up to, don't have the resolve to adhere to.
It gives me me an indication of your 'double standards', your 'hypocr|sy'.
haris bhai
hosh key nakhun lo meray bhai. yeh aap kiya keh rahay ho. behave like a gentleman.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
(4) Remember the message. There was a 'movement' called 'Nizam-e-Mustafa' (SAW) before today. It didn't work.
(5) Also remember words of Dr. Israr, when he said, in days of Muhammad (SAW) or Companions (RA, RAA) of Muhammad (SAW), there were no armies as today, there was no weapons as lethal as armies have today. Dr. Israr did say, this change of situation has to be taken into consideration.
You are 'ever-ready' to 'conveniently' 'fore-go' adding these facts in to your equation.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
..and as far as 'being' a 'thug' is concerned, we'll soon find out who is and is not a 'thug' when this global financial calamity hits this entire world, its entire population.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
I'll accept that which is from Islam. I will disregard my own whims, desires, ideas, when I have word from Islam on something.
I submit to ALLAH ALMIGHTY, I submit to Islam. My loyalty is with ALLAH ALMIGHTY, with Islam. I will adhere to Islam.
Global financial calamity?
More wishful thinking or perhaps even worse- delusions of fancy
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@shimatoree: How do you substantiate that claim ?
Have you not seen all the evidence ?
my dear haris khan, first please allow me to drag you out of jamaat-e-islami which itself is symbol of double standards and hypocrisy, a learnt man like you should quit as soon as possible, don't worry about peer-pressure or social pressure, mount a counter attack on your peers, ask them what they are doing by being part of secular democratic system-
last but not least jamaat-e-islami isn't working for any revolution so please stop giving geedar-bhabki, jamaat-e-islami is working with the system, through the system, for the system, and by the system -REMEMBER THAT!!
@kh
"I am a man of principles. I openly accept my mistakes, crimes."
Ah, so that explains your standing by JI (well, at least you admitted JI is a mistake :-P )
Haris Khan
I submit to ALLAH ALMIGHTY, I submit to Islam. My loyalty is with ALLAH ALMIGHTY, with Islam. I will adhere to Islam.
Than why u are showing ur loyalty to qazi Hussain Ahmed, Why u are loyal to Qazi Hussain. JI is only Cutputly Jamat. Why u don't simply accept Qazi is warrior of Words not the Warrior of Character. There is no difference b/w him and Molana Desiel.
Well Salam bhai precisely summed all about Jamait-e-Islami and their supporters , so nothing more to add in it. Better the innocent followers of JI should come out of the trap of JI in the name Islam.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
..and as it goes, none of you has answered any of my questions.
ALL of you are still avoiding them.
hariskhan
Aslam Aleikum,
We need to acknowledge with honesty that no adequate leadership is available to the nation. We need to develop it. For that purpose, we have to reform our society from base root. Your sentiments are somehow appreciated.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@Hussain Farooqui: Yes, I agree. We have to 're-develop' our society from the ground up.
One of the most important way of doing it, is by having an Islami justice system, education system, finance system, political system, social system.
HK,
.. and it goes what? (you mean after learning the fact you are going to take some acion?)
which questions? I'll be honest with you, I don't always read your full sermons, so may be I missed an important question-
sincerely-
The problem with some organizations and its members/workers is that they don’t work WITH them rather they work FOR them; therefore we see them defending the leaders then thoughts and ideas. We must always remember that we being part of any organization work WITH them for Islam. If we make this our standard, we could easily fix the problems that organization may have, otherwise we will keep on defending ideas that we personally know are wrong.
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