@Yahya bhai sahib,
mein ne MQM ko terrorist nahin banaya ;wohh tou thi hi terrorist ,meray paida honay se pehlay hi say .
apni party ko terrorsist mannay ka shukriya .
ab apnay leader se kahao kay hatyaar pheeank day aur wapis aakay khud ko police kay hawaly kar day .
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Following footsteps of Fascism....MQM
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Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 4:49 #
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Wanted by law as a criminal he should be brought back to Pakistan through Interpol.
There is enough evidence for this. If supreme court has issued orders for others, he should be included along with them. Current government who is sharing power with MQM will do nothing. Public should lobby pressurizing judiciary for this.Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 5:20 # -
@Patriot ,
thats why MQM wants to be in power always.
na sirf mazay karo bukkay ghunday leader ko bhi Govt se tahfuz dilwao .Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 5:23 # -
Even if MQM doesnt came to power they cant force Altaf to return and also they cant do Govt. without MQM as well because they are supported by the people of our economic hub....So they cant afford to loss MQM as MQM some how deliver the result....and this time they cant prepare a same drama which they prepared back in 1992 and due to that MQM retaliated and they failed despite of all efforts they did against them....
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 6:36 # -
Current Government has failed to deliver miserably. It's partners share equal blame being power sharing partners. ANP dropped out leaving PPP and MQM. Both are losers as for now.
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 16:44 # -
Well If we check in terms of performance then MQM ministers did perform like Baber Ghouri has given the profit from shipyard after 30+ years of continuous losses and farooq Sattar has brought back Pakistani families from Saudi jails which has never happened in Pakistan before....Yes Dr. Afia's case is their which is a big challenge for Dr. Farooq Sattar as his ministries is also came under that but overall their performance are much better as compare to PPP and ANP ministers but anyways individual performance dont work because in the end it is a coalition Govt. but we should also look at positive side as well because this might clear the picture regarding this issue...
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 16:59 # -
Farooq Sattar is unknown in the Middle East or as a matter of fact out of Pakistan. Media was the back bone and remained in forefront lobbying for that case till Saudi authorities agreed for their release. We know very well how Saudi system of Law administration and Justice Ministry functions!
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 17:16 # -
@semirza
His job was to bring back Pakistanis from Saudi jail as he was minister of over seas Pakistani so he did his job at least but another thing was that their cases were strong as well because the person who got them to that position was arrested by Police which was the reason for their release....
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 18:39 # -
Tell this to those who may believe. Not people like us who are somehow aware of exactly what happened. During BB's rule Zardari and his group toured this part of the world. On the night of their departure they had to be transported to Airport in ambulances...because they were stoned!
As locals do remember a lot about him and his ministers I leave it up to you now to figure out what respect they may have here or if they ever were allowed a say in that matter altogether. Credit goes to media and media only.Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 18:47 # -
@semirza
Their is a difference between talking to royal family and talking to Pakistani community and I know their position while talking to community but on the case we are discussing above require administration level talks which are formal not like addressing public gathering where their is a danger of shoe been thrown at those ministers....He might have done something which is a habit of Zardari but here MQM minister we are talking about not PPP and they might know D for democracy but still they would at least differentiate PPP and MQM because not every finger is equal to each other their are differences as well....
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 18:56 # -
My dear I am talking about your minister Mr.Farooq who has no welcome in the Middle East. I will leave this discussion here as this thread is about Fascism and MQM.
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 19:10 # -
@semirza
You are talking about Farooq Sattar by giving example of Zardari's experience during BB's rule....
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 19:13 # -
No. You may continue to pull it anyway you like. Farooq Sattar and his likes don't even get a proper protocol on their tour of the middle east specially now-a-days as has happened during this drugs smuggling case. Third party involvement and effective lobbying by the media played a role and not Farooq Sattar. This discussion ends here.
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 19:28 # -
tamaazkhan
Member"...effective lobbying by the media played a role"
Because the rest of the world respects our media and believes it conducts itself with journalistic integrity - AND DOES NOT PROMOTE CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
-what a joke semirza"Farooq Sattar and his likes don't even get a proper protocol on their tour of the middle east"
Like that means anything, Nawaz Sharif got great protocol, infact he got a palace in Jeddah.
It would seem the relationship between middle-eastern protocol and integrity is inversely related.
Middle Eastern protocol is no critera for effectivenes!Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 19:41 # -
I second semirza on this and invite you to follow your ministers where ever they go. This way you will know for yourself how VERY WELL KNOWN your MQM is in the Middle East.
A group of active MQM fanatics active on this forum cannot change what GOOD reputation you have earned the world over.
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 19:48 # -
tamaazkhan
Memberfanatic
–noun
1.a person with an extreme and uncritical zeal, as in religion or politics.I thought the point of parliamentary politics, was to be well known in your constituency. Why does anyone need to be popular in the Middle East or in world? Shouldn't they be popular in their own constituency? Shouldn't that be the basis of their appeal or votability?
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2010 19:55 # -
@Patriot
MQM is already known as Mush party and as they got business through Mush then saying they dont even have know how is not possible as they got Mush for help in their affairs and frankly who want Zardari as he got an army of incompetent ministers with him which are also ruining names of other ministers who actually trying to do their best but failing because of them....and about Farooq Sattar he happens to be Memon as well and Memons are most mobilize and very active in supporting each others no matter he belong to whom ever group and they are also one of Pakistan's larges Business community and those who were captured were also happened to be Memons so their is a whole community support available in this matter which could be the reason for their release as well...
Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2010 11:12 # -
Where will footsteps of fascism lead mqm now, according to the issue at hand?
Are there any chances that mqm will opt for reforms at a grassroot level.Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2010 15:25 # -
It is nice you accept the reality as of MQM and Mush connections.
Pity MQM sides with and shares power regardless of any principles. They will go ahead and share power with a dictator, known corrupt/criminal or look up to a dictator for political gains.Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 9:47 # -
@Patriot
I never rejected MQM Mush alliance anywhere as people who support MQM also support Mush because they saw some improvement in Mush but current Govt. dont even give **** about...
Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 10:30 # -
he he he
yes ,ppl who support MQM support Mushy the dictator too.
as MQM is also a dictator Hitler suucessor .Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 11:23 # -
ajhons
MemberBhaio, lagta hay sab log lar lar k thak gay hain::))
Im a punjabi living in Karachi since 1990 in nazimabad,a stronge hold of MQM voters.On my street there live Urdu speaking, punjabis, two Pathan families, and a family from Hazara.We trust each other more then we trust our own relatives.We never thougt of ourselves as Urdu or ounjabi or hindko.Its a big happy family.
I said this because I feel that some of the member against MQM, whentalking about their atrocities gave impression that URDU speaking people are against all those with different language people.Please understand MQM doesn't mean all urdu speaking people.A lot of my Urdu Speaking MQM lovers never talk hatered about other people.They support MQM only because they think that before MQM karachi was neglected and their voices were not heard.I don't know if I present my point of view clearly or Im lost between the words
Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 11:25 # -
jee nahin ,Urdu speaking saray na tou MQM kay sath hain na hi Mush kay sath .
kuch Urdu speaking meri tarhah aqalmand bhi hian .:):):)Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 11:27 # -
ajhons
MemberChoosy bhai ap ka matlab hay "Kuch he" aqalmand hain ziada nahi :::)))).Phir to PTI ka vote bank kabhi bhi nahi stronge ho ga LOL
Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 11:46 # -
he he he Ajhons bhai ,
mazaq acha kar letay ho...:):):)
i like funny ppl ...Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 12:00 # -
only for choosy....saray Karachiite Imran Khan k sath hain aur Hakim Ullah Mehsud ko apna Khalifa mantay hain aur Usama bin Ladin ko poray dunya k Musalmano ka Khalifa mantay hain.....ab khush...
Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 12:06 # -
ajhons
Memberyahya bhia, mulla omer ko bhol gay aap.Usko bhi tu koi post milni chahiye.::))
Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 12:19 # -
@ajhons
Yar woh tu Afghanistan ka khlifa hai us ka Pakistan mai kia kaam????yahan tu Hakeem Ullah Mehsud and co. TTP chala rahay hain....:))
Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 12:21 # -
ajhons
Memberohh you are right.I need to know more about international politics.:)) Hahah.
Wesay yahya bhai I think mulla omer is quite different in the lot. He had distant himself from ALqaida and withdraw support for pakistani so called Taliban.I don't know how much it is true?
Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 12:27 # -
@ajhons
ya might be you are right but the way Hakeem Ullah Mehsud's revenge was taken on CIA headquarter its link start emerging...Afgan Taliban and Pakistani Taliban commanders are arrested recently from Karachi were mostly living in Sohrab Goth so their might be links their but they deny it for some strategic reasons...
Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 12:35 # -
@Yahya bhai ,
he he he
Yahya bhai aap tou tapp hi gaye ho .
mein tou keh raha tha kay Pora Karachi aqal mand ho gaya hay aur aab kabhi bhi MQM yah Mush ko vote nahin day ga inshallah .
Taliban se humko subko Nafrat hay bilkul .Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 12:41 # -
@choosy
tap gaya woh bhi mai hamari aisi majal kahan bhai hum tu aisahi batain karnay walay loog hain....main tu bas app ki khushi k liye yeh sub keh diya lakin lagta hai app ko itni khushi nahi howi meri baat pay tu chalo shayad ajhon bhai ki baat sahi ho mai Mula Umer ko kha giya tha us ki bhi jagan bana daita hun woh Taliban k quaid-e-Tehrik hongay...:))
Posted 1 year ago on 19 Mar 2010 12:48 # -
Qalma'go
MemberRecent positive political developments for which all credit goes to PPP not much appreciation is seen coming out of London and reported through Pakistani media.
Posted 1 year ago on 02 Apr 2010 9:28 # -
@Yahya bhai ,
mein iss forum pe sub se chota hon ;iss liye sub mujh ko chiaraty hain aur tang bhi kartay hain .
magar i am OK with it .mujhko Taliban ki hukumat nahin chahiye na aaj na kal.
no2 baat . Naseem sahib ne sach kaha .
MQM tareef mein peechay peechay aur tang khenchnay mein aagay aagay kion rahti hay ????:):):)Posted 1 year ago on 02 Apr 2010 9:45 # -
Qalma'go
MemberBecause they follow footsteps of fascism and cannot tolerate any party, organization, ngo or a personality (not even Hakim Saeed) in the lime light except mqm.
Posted 1 year ago on 02 Apr 2010 10:26 # -
@choosy
App ko kahin mai tu nahi chiarata???Agar mai Chiarata hun tu bhai sorry yar main jan bojh k aisa nahi karta...
Aur jahan tak taliban ka sawal hai tu Taliban ko koi bhi bashaor pakistani nahi chata balkay nafrat karta hai....aur jahan tak MQM aur us k quaid ki tareef ka sawal hai tu MQM k quaid nay is ki tareef ki hai agar app nay news dekhi ho 31march ki raat mmai signature honay k baad ki aur aisa mumkin ho hi nahi sakta k MQM k quaid nay aisa na kaha ho kyun k MQM k Hyder Abbas Rizvi aur Farooq Sattart bhi is commission ka part thay wo bhi is tarikhi muqay ka hissa thay MQM ki taraf say....
Posted 1 year ago on 02 Apr 2010 10:37 # -
@Yahya bhai ,
aary nahin nahin ,wohh aap nahin hain jo mujh ko chiratay hain ..aap tou achay bhai hain...mein tou ganday bhai ki baat kar raha tha ..khair...:):):)MQM ne itni rokhi sookhi tareef ki hay kay maza nahin aya .
zara jam kay tareef kartay na ...MQM hay chootay dil walay ...bari zuban walay .
kiya khayal hay aapka ?Posted 1 year ago on 02 Apr 2010 10:45 # -
@choosy
Bhai MQM aisi hi rokhi sokhi tareef karti hai aur yeh sab mazay k liye nahi hoti balkay appriciation k liye hoti hai han lakin app yeh bhi dekho k abhi tu yeh sirf Sanete say manzoor hoa hai abhi tu parliament say bhi pass hona hai issay aur wahan pay is ki debate k doran kuch aur batain bhi samnay a saktin hain tu isi liye abhi kisi bhi baray leader nay pori tarhan say khul kar is ki tareef nahi ki hai jab yeh parliament say pass ho jaiga tab tu poray mulk mai jashan ho hoga jaisay is waqt KhaiberPakhtunkwa mai ho raha hai....
Posted 1 year ago on 02 Apr 2010 10:52 # -
ufff,
Dada marein gay tou bail batein gay .:):):)Posted 1 year ago on 02 Apr 2010 10:55 # -
@choosy
waisay appnay kaha k app bohat chotay ho is forum pay, Bura tu lagay ga lakin how old are you???
Posted 1 year ago on 02 Apr 2010 12:57 # -
sub se chota ...
aap se 10 saal aur Lal Bichoo bhai se 20 saal chota ...
:):):)
chota sa aik larka hon par kaam karon ga baray baray ..:):):0Posted 1 year ago on 02 Apr 2010 15:48 # -
@choosy
Meri age kia hai app jantay ho???
Posted 1 year ago on 02 Apr 2010 19:08 #
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