I was reading Bazam Arayian by Col. Muhammad Khan
See what he says about the bad impact of english language and how it is destroying our culture
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English, our National Language
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Posted 1 year ago on 04 Oct 2010 21:31 #
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@H20
Col's argument hold for the time and circumstance they are written for. These days you see in the West there is religious breed of the immigrant parents whose first language is English. These guys don't have good grasp of the mother languages of their parents, yet they are more serious and knowledgeable about Islam than their parents. What would do say that the language, the cultural baggage and the liberal environment did for these guys in diluting them? It follows that the language backlash holds for people who are insecure about both their cultural identity and religious connection, which the Col addresses.
Posted 1 year ago on 04 Oct 2010 22:17 # -
inqalaabee
MemberThis is our fault as a Nation that we have not been able to develop a system in our regional languages; instead we have been relaying on English as the best option.
A large percentage of our population lives in rural areas, and all our judicial systems and government offices operate in English, How can we expect justice if the court proceedings are not in our local languages.
If a poor Sindhi farmer is in the court and he does not understand what the court staff is saying, do you think we can offer him justice? Absolutely not.We should promote our regional Languages and the so called "Qaoom Parast" should step forward and try to develop all the legal docs and text material in their own language.
Every Pakistani should be offered another regional language as 2nd compulsory language to communicate better with other cultures, unfortunately at this point even well educated people don’t respect but make fun of other languages and cultures. Sindhi living in Sindh should be offered Urdu as 2nd language and Urdu speaking population living in Sindh should learn Sindhi.
Similarly Pakhtoons living in Pakhtoonkhwa should learn Hindko or Punjabi as they are very close to Punjab.
Brothers please...open your mind eyes and promote the idea of minimizing dependency on foreign language and culture.
I wish a poor Pakhtoon will not have to face English language in the court room after few decades but the proceedings will be in Pashto.Our cultures are way better and richer than English.
Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 3:45 # -
@LifeH20,
i have read and has this book in my collection.
very interesting to read again and again .as long as English language is concerned .
i agree with the author completely .
we are inferiority complexed people .
when Gora Master left us , he left the English being the Master 's language for us .
since then , we have a pattern of thinking .
that one who is speaking wrong English is better and superior than the one ,who is fluently speaking good Urdu .this is what called a slave mindset .
if you are wearing western clothes and speaking English then you are superior than any one else .if you are wearing Shalwar Qameez and speaking Urdu , then you will be considered less fortunate , less educated and amongst have nots .
English has become the status symbol .
i have seen many people speaking totally wrong English .
just because they live in Defense or Clifton .when i was in a presentation , and presenting my concept about a new Biscuit launch TV commercial ...
i was told by the Managing Director of Continental Biscuits (biggest manufacturers of Biscuits in Pakistan )that its not "Biscuit " its a "Cookie " call it and refer it as a 'cookie " ...
i got surprised .
and when i came back from the meeting , i checked out on net as well as consulted from Dictionary ...
came to know , that Biscuit and Cookie are the same things .
only difference is that .
Britishers call it 'Biscuit'
American call it 'Cookie ' .as we have no word in Urdu for Biscuit , so we call it Biscuit in Urdu too .
it means , MD of Continental Biscuit was equally conscious about English version of referring his product as we can see Meera , being conscious about her repo as an educated film actress ....i was amazed to know that .
though for a fact i can tell you .
i eat the Roti out of Urdu .
yes , Urdu is my forty , which makes me earn money .
as i write copies , captions , jingles , TV commercials in Urdu and get paid for it ....Urdu is not only my earning forty .
but its my reading pleasure also ....
i read both English and Urdu books .
but i do enjoy Urdu books , Urdu poetry and Urdu Literature more than English classic novels and magazines .Urdu is my national language , my mother language and my language of expression .
i think in Urdu ...read in Urdu ..write in Urdu .
i write articles and stories for kids in Urdu ...
and i am proud of being a person who knows Urdu ....Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 6:23 # -
as long as English language is concerned .
i agree with the author completely .
we are inferiority complexed people .
when Gora Master left us , he left the English being the Master 's language for us .
since then , we have a pattern of thinking .
that one who is speaking wrong English is better and superior than the one ,who is fluently speaking good Urdu .this is what called a slave mindset .
if you are wearing western clothes and speaking English then you are superior than any one else .if you are wearing Shalwar Qameez and speaking Urdu , then you will be considered less fortunate , less educated and amongst have nots .
English has become the status symbol .
i have seen many people speaking totally wrong English .
just because they live in Defense or Clifton .Each word is true
Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 10:29 # -
thanks for agreement ...
Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 10:32 # -
A long forgotten Urdu word for Biscuit was 'khataee'.
Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 11:10 # -
@Semirza ,
yah you are right ... Khataee is a word in Urdu for Biscuits but now it has been associated with a particular kind of Desi home made Biscuit called Nan Khataee .Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 11:16 # -
The new vogue for being modern or burger class is not English but that funny sounding and twisted Urdu spoken largely by the girls - the newscasters, the receptionist, pretty much any public interface figure or front desk attendant, which sounds synthesized Urdu. This trend is not specific to Pakistan only, the new generation is defining every language through out the world.
Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 11:25 # -
good observation .
mixed Urdu English which has been called Minglish is quite popular in youngsters not only in girls but in boys too .one reason is Text messaging and Chatting on net ...
which has been done in Roman Urdu with lots of English words in between .so this Khichri is quite popular in youngsters .
but some where we got stuck .
as Urdu dont have alternative for these words like :
Pencil , Bulb , Glass ( utensil ), plastic , Television , Radio , computer and Tax.anybody has any idea what are tell me alternates in Urdu .
i have interviewed Jamil Jalibi ,the Urdu Language scholar and head of Muqtadira Quami Zuban .
i have asked him about the Urdu alternate for the same words ...
he said ;
Torch , Computer , Radio , Television , Pencil
these are all machines or tools .
so they has to be called with their names .
just like we cant call David , Dawood or Daniel as Danial .
but my point was
if we have Hathora for Hammer .
which is also a tool ...and Qalam for Pen .
why not something for Radio , Tv and Pencil ?Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 11:49 # -
A fact is that Urdu itself is a mixture of many languages. The Urdu about which we are talking about is mostly a compilation of Hindi, Farsi, Arbic. English was there too but not much. But now all those words are being replaced by their english alternatives. Names of tools in english is correct when there is no other word for it, but if we have already why replace it
Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 12:11 # -
I'm not talking about colloquial, short form and abbreviated language. I'm talking about proper language used for formal delivery such as at a public forum, it would be proper if written too. But when spoken, the speaker delivers in a slanted accent that it sounds improper. If my grandfather hears it from my cousin, he would be on fire. Initially it appears that the speaker fakes the accent, but it is so perfectly done and 100% of the time, one does believe this is the only form of delivery the speaker knows.
Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 12:26 # -
you are talking about accent .
yes, i have seen accent conscious people too.
with lots of unnecessary 'H' sounds added into their accent .
like speh-cially , perh-mitted , coh-operation
etc....
which sounds funny ...Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 13:41 # -
Others add 's' for making plurals in Urdu :)
Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 14:07 # -
@LifeH20 ,
true ...like i have seen Reema in an Interview saying:shadi kay baad meray Husbands meray filmo mein kaam ka faisla karein gaye .:):):)
Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 14:10 # -
On old PTV of 90s the name of the drama and the names shown in end were all written in Urdu. Now the names are still in Urdu but script is enlish all the way (same is happening with other channels). Hum TV has taken the goodness of PTV
Posted 1 year ago on 05 Oct 2010 17:10 # -
I found it in a text book, I am confused if my Urdu is correct after reading this
Posted 7 months ago on 26 Oct 2011 18:36 #
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