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Does PPP admit Zardari as convict as he already served jail time

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  1. azizi
    Member

    Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said yesterday and many other PPPeers have repeatedly mentioned before that President Zardari has already served jail time more than the charges he is accused of. Isn’t it naive or simply dumb to say such thing? Isn't it equivalent to admitting guilt on behalf of Zardari?

    Is so, then Zardari is a convict. Does Pakistani Constitution or law allow a convict to run for a public office? Any discount lawyer on this forum? (Pro bono is preferred. I do not think it is allowed in the USA or UK?

    Posted 2 years ago on 20 Dec 2009 6:37 #

  2. zingaro
    Member

    Good point Azizi ... let Obaid bhai come here and you will get an answer explaining how innocent is Zardari & Co. Just wait ..Obaid bhai aaney hi waalay hein :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 20 Dec 2009 9:03 #

  3. Salam
    member

    Actually they are trying to win sympathy for zardari by calling attention to his 8 years of jail.

    Azizi is right, it is not about more jail term for zardari, it is about being convicted or not which will lead to disqualification for holding public office.

    Posted 2 years ago on 20 Dec 2009 9:11 #

  4. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    I don't care about PPP or Zardari in this matter.

    What I care about is impartial, across the board justice, RAZOR SHARP accountability, which seems to have been served in one way and not served in another.

    The way it was served was when judges said, NRO is against what Quran-o-Hadees teaches us, NRO is void, invalid, unconstitutional. illegal, unlawful, against the law of the land.

    However, the way in which it was not served is, the court of law missed noting the culprits who propagated NRO in the first place i.e.,

    - Musharraf
    - Pak Army
    - foreign nations who played a part in this
    - Politicians
    - Bureaucrats
    - Businessmen
    - etc etc

    Perhaps where justice wasn't served in the first part will come in the second part, in shape of cases that have re-opened as a result. So, ALL those who are envolved will automatically come in the limelight. If this is the way court of law is proceeding, then there's nothing to worry about. ALL people from military who are envolved in crimes will automatically get highlighted. It will happen automatically ALL in good time.

    Otherwise, if this is a way for court of law to ignore people belonging to Pak Army who were part of NRO, then it is not impartial justice. I would strongly! criticize court of law in such a scenario for violating rule of law, for not being impartial.

    Court of LAW also! forgot to investigate who did NRO, who was part of it, where did this event take place, was state money spent on this matter, if foreign powers were envolved who were they ? ALL this information SHOULD! have been noted in the court of law AND made public.

    I am for impartial, across the board, non-discriminatory, FAST!, RAZOR SHARP accountability. I don't care who's head comes under the axe, be it a politician, generals, bureaucrats, businessmen, or any other person.

    I want impartial, across the board JUSTICE

    Posted 2 years ago on 20 Dec 2009 10:12 #

  5. Salam
    member

    NRO was a fraud deal brokered by US/UK to preserve their regional interests.

    Americans hijacked British part of pie through BB's assassination and now British part is striking back through judiciary...

    Posted 2 years ago on 20 Dec 2009 10:28 #

  6. Anonymous

    Yes, it dumb and naive to say such thing by the PM? It equivalent to admitting guilt on behalf of Zardari?

    Posted 2 years ago on 20 Dec 2009 10:44 #

  7. Anonymous

    Haris Khan

    Accountability is already being done by our courts. Will you please elaborate your 'razor sharp accountability'? Does it mean Zabeha of people and hanging their corpses with trees?

    Posted 2 years ago on 20 Dec 2009 10:51 #

  8. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    1) WHO is going to decide 'how much' jail term equals the crimes Zardari sb. has committed ?

    2) WHEN will it be decided ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 20 Dec 2009 11:02 #

  9. azizi
    Member

    Members of Pakistan Governments
    Date of Information: 8/18/2009 (CIA AQA Publication)

    President -------------------------------- Asif Ali ZARDARI
    Prime Min. ------------------------ Syed Yousuf Raza GILANI
    Senior Min. --------------------------- Makhdoom Amin FAHIM
    Min. of Commerce ---------------------- Makhdoom Amin FAHIM
    Min. of Communications ----------------- Arbab Alamgir KHAN
    Min. of Culture
    Min. of Defense -------------------- Chaudhry Ahmed MUKHTAR
    Min. of Defense Production -------- Abdul Qayyum Khan JATOI
    Min. of Education------------------- Mir Hazar Khan BIJRANI
    Min. of Environment --------------- Hameed Ullah Jan AFRIDI
    Min. of Finance, Revenue, ------------------- Shaukat TARIN
    Economic Affairs, & Statistics
    Min. of Food & Agriculture ---------- Nazar Muhammad GONDAL
    Min. of Foreign Affairs ----- Makhdoom Shah Mehmood QURESHI
    Min. of Health ----------------- Mir Aijaz Hussain JAKHRANI
    Min. of Housing & Works ------------ Haji Rehmatullah KAKAR
    Min. of Human Rights ------------- Syed Mumtaz Alam GILLANI
    Min. of Industries&Production --- Mian Manzoor Ahmad WATTOO
    Min. of Information & Broadcasting ------ Qamar Zaman KAIRA
    Min. of Information Technology &
    Telecommunications
    Min. of Interior -------------------------- A. Rehman MALIK
    Min. of Interprovinical Coordination
    Min. of Investment ----------------------- Waqar Ahmed KHAN
    Min. of Kashmir Affairs & --------------- Qamar Zaman KAIRA
    Northern Areas
    Min. of Labor & Manpower -------- Syed Khursheed Ahmed SHAH
    Min. of Law & Justice
    Min. of Livestock & --------------------- Humayun Aziz KURD
    Dairy Development
    Min. of Local Govt. & ------ Justice Abdul Razzaq A. THAHIM
    Rural Development
    Min. of Minorities ------------------------- Shahbaz BHATTI
    Min. of Narcotic Control
    Min. of Overseas Pakistanis ----------------- Farooq SATTAR
    Min. of Parliamentary Affairs------- Zaheeruddin Babar AWAN
    Min. of Petroleum & --------------------- Syed Naveed QAMAR
    Natural Resources
    Min. of Planning & Development ------- Makhdoom SHAHABUDDIN
    Min. of Population Welfare ------------- Firdous Ashiq AWAN
    Min. of Ports & Shipping --------------- Barbar Khan GHAURI
    Min. of Postal Services -------------- Mir Israrullah ZEHRI
    Min. of Privatization ------------------- Syed Naveed QAMAR
    Min. of Railways ----------------- Haji Ghulam Ahmed BILOUR
    Min. of Religious Affairs ---------- Syed Hamid Saeed KAZMI
    Min. of Science & Technology -------------- Azam Khan SWATI
    Min. of Social Welfare & ------------- Samina Khalid GHURKI
    Special Education
    Min. of Special Initiatives ------------- Lal Muhammad KHAN
    Min. of Sports ------------- Pir Aftab Hussain Shah GILLANI
    Min. of States & ----------------- (SAFRON) Najamuddin KHAN
    Frontier Regions
    Min. of Textile Industry -- Rana Muhammad Farooq Saeed KHAN
    Min. of Tourism -------------------- Maulana Atta ur-REHMAN
    Min. of Water & Power ----------------- Raja Pervaiz ASHRAF
    Min. of Women's Development
    Min. of Youth Affairs --------------- Shahid Hussain BHUTTO
    Min. of Zakat & Ushr -------------------- Noorul Haq QADARI
    Governor, State Bank ---------------------- Syed Salim RAZA
    Ambassador to the US ----------------------- Husain HAQQANI
    Permanent Representative
    to the UN, New York --------------- Abdullah Hussain HAROON

    Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 2:29 #

  10. Beenai
    Moderator

    PPP is very weak in admitting the facts ,unfortunately .
    far sight of the party is too weak,to see obvious and clear things ...

    Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 8:28 #

  11. Salam
    member

    Yes, because facts are quite bad.

    Posted 2 years ago on 22 Dec 2009 5:02 #

  12. AHR
    Member

    People last week saw the operation of justice in all its majesty. The 17 judges of the Supreme Court declared unanimously that an accused person cannot be absolved of charges by an act of parliament. An ordinance promulgated by the president has the same force and effect as an act of parliament (Article 89(2)). President Musharraf, the product of a sham referendum, had conceived and promulgated the NRO to acquire legitimacy and another tenure and clean the slate for about 8,500 NAB-hit people, which included politicians, bureaucrats and party functionaries.

    http://ahraza.wordpress.com/2009/12/22/majesty-of-law/

    Posted 2 years ago on 22 Dec 2009 6:17 #

  13. Beenai
    Moderator

    now ,PPP as a party has left with only two choices :

    sacrifice CO-CHAIRMAN
    sacrifice whole party .

    decision would be critical .

    Posted 2 years ago on 22 Dec 2009 9:09 #

  14. New Pakistan
    Member

    "...an accused person cannot be absolved of charges by an act of parliament"

    Agreed. And an accused also person cannot be convicted by an act of angry mobs. Best course of action is to have quick hearing of NRO cases. If there is proof of guilt, then there is proof of guilt. But if there is no proof - and proof does not mean rumours, innuendos, political vengeance, or anti-Sindhi racism - then the person's name should be cleared and there should be no more complaining.

    Posted 2 years ago on 22 Dec 2009 11:23 #

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