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  1. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
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    “Advantages of Creation of Bangladesh to Pakistan”.

    M.Akram Khan Niazi, Pakistan

    Usually smaller Parts of a country having extraordinary resources tries to break away from the mainland to take the maximum advantage of their resources for their advantage, and to protect themselves from the drain of their resources to majority or dominant section of the country, but in case of Pakistan Majority Part on the basis of population, which was also having scare resources, separated from the other part, Generally, it is regarded as an unfortunate event for Pakistan by people of Pakistan, and no Pakistani tries to see other side of the coin of that event for analysis of the benefits achieved to them by this event

    The reason of this is that all literature about that event has been written by those who were living in East Pakistan and they suffered personally by this event, due to which they always indicate their miseries and losses and forget to explain the advantages of that event to whole Pakistani Nation. Therefore, it is necessary to see the real results of this event. With the separation of East Pakistan, following advantages were achieved to Pakistan.

    1. Economical

    •Separation of Bangladesh was as much beneficial for Pakistan as separation of Pakistan from India.

    •As the part of world in which East Pakistan was situated, was having limited resources, and many poor areas of subcontinent are situated in that part, such as Bihar , Assam ,West Bengal, Burma and Bhutan. Technically it was not in the interest of Pakistan, to keep itself attached with East Bengal(Historically one of the most poorest area of subcontinent) .In fact Pakistan after separation saved its future from economic burden of poverty ridden Bangladesh,

    • Huge Population and scare resources of East Bengal were clear Indicators, that there will be no extraordinary progress in future in that province and no sensible person may think that it was valuable for Pakistan to keep itself attached with most poverty ridden part of this region.

    •Being a part of East Pakistan, rulers were forcing to West Pakistani citizens to become a market of East Pakistan’s low quality Products, such as Tea, Pans and jute on artificial high prices on the name of Patriotism, while now such type high quality Products may be purchased from other countries on very low prices.

    •After separation of Bangladesh, it was possible for Pakistan to make its economic policies without having any concern of interests of a far situated part.

    •Pakistan Economic Managers relieved themselves from the Economic restrictions due to economic interest of East Bengal. That situation was as much harmful, as today Pakistan start to take care of the economic interest of Myanmar or West Bengal; it is certain that such type situation will be disastrous for Pakistan.

    •With the analysis of economic situation of present day Pakistan and Bangladesh, shows that Pakistan GDP and Foreign currency reserves are double than that of Bangladesh and Electricity production is also 5 times more. It is obvious, that separation was much more in the interest of Pakistan, Because, the only solution of the Disparity between two parts, was to serve the Bangladesh with the resources of West Pakistan. Otherwise there was no other magic solution to address that disparity.

    •It is still obvious that, there is still no charm in having trade links with countries of South Asia, because it is not in the economic interest of Pakistan, instead of that we should focus on rich and developed areas such as China, Middle East, Far East, Europe and USA.

    2. Political Advantages.

    •Due to extraordinary majority of Bengali Population, it was not possible for any province of West Pakistan to become equivalent to that majority any time in future, and it was certain that representatives of Provinces of West Pakistan will always remain in opposition in assemblies as per modern time democracy principles, this was really a frightening situation and the People of Pakistan were going to be ruled by any ethnocentric Bengali Leader or by any Bengali Military dictator for ever.

    •Due to Bengali nationalism and ethnocentrism, on the basis of which People of Bangladesh were victimizing the Urdu Speaking Muslim refugees from India and that is still continue, and their Ethnic Cleansing with aborigines people of CHT, were clearly indicating that people of that area were not sincere and aware of the Ideology of Pakistan, in fact attachment of Pakistan with East Bengal was self deception and nothing else.

    •Due to agitation style and different culture, the politicians of East Pakistan were always blaming Pakistan for their problems and exploitations, while people of Pakistan were worried about deteriorating condition of people of East Pakistan due to poverty and natural disasters, and they were too much fed up with that situation as they were seeing no end of all this, as this thing was also harming the Basic Ideology of Pakistan, and therefore to get rid of this situation and to avoid baseless allegations it was necessary to separate that area(East Bengal) from Pakistan, and this was the main reason that West Pakistani Military Personnel, even having capability for defending that part decided very easily and conveniently to end their any relation with that land on the basis of the facts that they were tired of all those messy affairs.

    • Due to separation of East Pakistan, Pakistan saved itself and its ideology from baseless criticism of Bengalese Politicians, and now on real grounds they are blaming each other for their problems.
    •With the separation of Bangladesh, Pakistan Islamic Ideology became more prominent with the introduction of Islamic laws and future scenario of Pakistan became much more firmed with the conversion of population ratio to 98 % Muslims, while with Bangladesh, presence of Huge Hindu minority was having adverse effects on the ideological progress of the country.

    3. Security Advantages:

    As East Pakistan was situated in the abdomen and inside the body of India and thousand miles away from West Pakistan, India was using this factor for blackmailing and pressurizing Pakistan from the beginning, In fact burden of huge population of East Bengal was loaded on West Pakistan to make Pakistan a crippled and failed state by Indian National Congress. India used that part as a button for keeping under pressure to Pakistan in 1947, in war of 1965 and again in 1970 with policy to occupy large chunk of land in East Pakistan. Due to 1000 miles distance between both parts and that also filled by enemy land, in such worst scenario even maintaining contacts between security forces and their mobility was in fact a difficult, expensive and life taking task, accompanied with wastage of huge resources, ultimately resulting in weakening of Defense forces and economy of the country. By separation of East Bengal, Pakistan was able to get rid of its weak point which was a most easy and favorite target of India. Due to that now Pakistan Defense is more strong and protected as compared to vulnerable and weak position before 1971.

    4. Social Advantages:

    •With the separation of Bengal flow of population from densely populated Bangladesh to parts of West Pakistan stopped, which was a good development for the culture and social set up of West Pakistan.

    •Due to two national languages, Cultural evolution of the people of West Pakistan was stopped and their local languages were dying, with the separation of Bangladesh, that process was stopped.

    •After separation of Bangladesh huge jobs opportunities were raised for people of different provinces of West Pakistan in both Federal and Provincial Governments. Due to elimination of share of people of Bengalese in civilian Jobs, which resulted in an increase in participation of local population in the affairs of country, by this their sense of depriving was minimized.

    •People of Bengal are usually dark skinned, while people of West Pakistan were of Fair Skinned, due to continuous flow of Bengalese from East Bengal was creating racial discomfort and fears in the mind of local populations, that by this they will become minority in their own provinces, specially in the case when Federal Government was encouraging Bengalese to rehabilitate in West Pakistan, By separation of East Bengal this process of migration was also stopped.

    This is the reason that after separation of East Pakistan, Mr. Mujibur Rehman was immediately released by President Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, and he never expressed any regret about creation of Bangladesh.

    Similarly once Prersident Zia-ul-Haq commented that freedom fighters of Bangladesh were in fact the freedom fighters of Pakistan, Now Bangladesh is a free country and Pakistan is also a free country.

    It is crystal clear from all above mentioned facts that separation from Problematic East Bengal created new life and new freedom in Pakistan.

    Written By M.Akram Khan Niazi.
    Karachi,Pakistan

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Mar 2010 6:01 #
  2. 1.humara newspaper mehnaga ho gaya ;kionkay newsprint Patna mein hota tha ab hum newsprint import kartay hain ;iss liye humara akhbar India aur Bangladesh kay akhbaron se mehnga hay ....
    2. humari music industry Robin Ghosh ,Shabnum,Alamagir ,Shahnaz Begum ,Rona Liala pe chal rahi thi ;yeh sub wapis Bangladesh gaye aur humari Music bhi gaye ...

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Mar 2010 6:06 #
  3. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Niazi sb

    going by same apprach/ principle , balochistan should also get freedom.

    Plz correct me if I misunderstood

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Mar 2010 6:25 #
  4. laoo jee ;abhi hum Bangaldesh ko roo rahay rahay hain.
    yeh Balochistan alag karwany chalaay.

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Mar 2010 6:43 #
  5. RajputPuttar
    Member

    choosy bahi,

    U apply any of the economic , political , social logic presented in the article and then say that

    "Doesn't justifiy Balochistation freedom from Pakistan "

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Mar 2010 9:34 #
  6. pappu
    Member

    m akram nizai bahie teri akal ko salam or should i say salute wink wink> yeh kia topic baniya haie bohat great thinking haie app kie kiya next one ho sakta haie advantages of zia ul haq ka marshaalah aur jinnah ki death kaie pakistan ko 100 faiday. Keep up the ground breaking research.

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Mar 2010 11:39 #
  7. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
    Member

    After separation of East Pakistan, Mr. Mujibur Rehman was immediately released by President Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, and he never expressed any regret about creation of Bangladesh.

    Similarly once Prersident Zia-ul-Haq commented that freedom fighters of Bangladesh were in fact the freedom fighters of Pakistan, Now Bangladesh is a free country and Pakistan is also a free country.

    It is crystal clear from all above mentioned facts that separation from Problematic East Bengal created new life and new freedom in Pakistan.

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Mar 2010 12:57 #
  8. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Niazi Sahib,

    Should not resource balochistan get rid of problemetic punjab ?

    Doesn't your article fully justifies it ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Mar 2010 13:00 #
  9. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
    Member

    Ethnic politicians of Balouchistan know very well that without Pakistan,Province of Balouchistan will itself divide into four and five parts,there fore they is no advantage to Balouchistan to be separated out from Pakistan.

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Mar 2010 13:00 #
  10. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Niazi sahib,

    Aap principle kii baat karain , that u have put forward.

    a) Political
    b) Social
    c) Economical

    Political.

    Balochistan , having a very small population as comparied to punjab , can never get its due weightage in Federation of Pakistan.

    Right ?

    Economoical.

    Balochistan is resource rich as compared to other provinces specially punjab and will be one of the richest independnt nations.

    right ?

    So, why not to get rid of burden ?if these principles were good for west pakistan to seprate itself from east , then why not these are good for balochistan.

    One more thing.
    Balochistan doesn't have a problem with india and hence it doesn't need to expenses of big army to fight india ? Right

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Mar 2010 13:10 #
  11. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
    Member

    3. Security Advantages:

    As East Pakistan was situated in the abdomen and inside the body of India and thousand miles away from West Pakistan, India was using this factor for blackmailing and pressurizing Pakistan from the beginning, In fact burden of huge population of East Bengal was loaded on West Pakistan to make Pakistan a crippled and failed state by Indian National Congress. India used that part as a button for keeping under pressure to Pakistan in 1947, in war of 1965 and again in 1970 with policy to occupy large chunk of land in East Pakistan. Due to 1000 miles distance between both parts and that also filled by enemy land, in such worst scenario even maintaining contacts between security forces and their mobility was in fact a difficult, expensive and life taking task, accompanied with wastage of huge resources, ultimately resulting in weakening of Defense forces and economy of the country. By separation of East Bengal, Pakistan was able to get rid of its weak point which was a most easy and favorite target of India. Due to that now Pakistan Defense is more strong and protected as compared to vulnerable and weak position before 1971.

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 Mar 2010 5:59 #
  12. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Niazi sb,

    Why all this not applicable to balochistan?

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 Mar 2010 6:32 #
  13. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
    Member

    Main resources of Pakistan are located in Provinces of Punjab,Sindh,NWFP,Northern Areas and Kashmir,while Balouchistan is an arid Province with few mineral deposits which will not last for ever,it is the reason that province of Balouchistan is thinly populated,therefore it is not in the interest for people of Balouchistan to be separated out from Pakistan,infact people of Balochistan are more mobile and active in other provinces for their livelihood,there fore separation will be a disaster for people of Balouchistan.

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 Mar 2010 9:44 #
  14. rashidsaleem
    Member

    The separation of Bangladesh from Pakistan was indeed a sad incident triggered by some staunch attitudes and social-moral injustices. We need to learn our lesson from this and move towards a more tolerant society or the history might just repeat itself.

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 Mar 2010 11:03 #
  15. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Dear Mr.Niazi

    BAlochistan has got a lot of mineral wealth.

    Punjab has been stealing gas since 1953 and its not finished as yet and there are lot of mineral resources untapped. Yes, its arid but whats about UAE , SAudi ARabia or Qatar ? Are not they arid, thinly populated but still very rich.

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 Mar 2010 11:22 #
  16. ajhons
    Member

    After Balochistan i will be Karachi, South Punjab and tribal area.Niazi bhai phir aap in sab area k separate honay k faeday likh rahay hon gay.Everybody got his own reasons.Bangalis have their own,South Punjab has its own, Balochi's have their own,Mujahirs of Karachi have their own and lastly you have your own.
    I've seen old people from Punjab, balochistan, Sindh, NWFP weeping when talk about east Pakistan.
    Ghar totay to koi khush nahi hota.

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 Mar 2010 11:41 #
  17. People use tactics of separation from Pakistan for blackmailing, therefore it was more better to adopt political and diplomatic way for separation of East and west Pakistan,then using war and violent means.
    Specially in the senario when Qauid-e-Azam himself authorized Mr.Hussain Shaheed Suharwardi for negotiation between East Bengal and West Bengal, for creation of a autonomous and free state. and when Bhutto himself said Idhar Hum ,Udhar tum.There was no reason for bengalese to use violent means for separation from Pakistan.

    Posted 2 months ago on 12 Dec 2011 9:23 #
  18. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Akram

    Don't distort history.

    Bengalis didn't use violent means . It was ROUGE ARMY which refused to accept the elections results and transfer power to mujeeb. There was no violence before 1st of March , 1971 when CNC of BAHUDR FAUJ postponed the assembly session and then started the ARMY action on 25th march.

    I would request u not to distort history please.

    Posted 2 months ago on 12 Dec 2011 9:43 #
  19. oblivion
    member

    sharif aadmi
    Are you bangagli?

    Posted 2 months ago on 12 Dec 2011 10:13 #
  20. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    No sir. I m a punjabi from lahore. an ordinary student of history .

    Posted 1 month ago on 12 Dec 2011 11:04 #
  21. @M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI

    Are you Ghost of Gen Tiger Niazi or one of his relatives?

    Sadly, very sadly, you have been trying to justify separation of one of the provinces of Pakistan mainly due to wrong/unfair policies of West Pakistan minority and Army Establishment.

    What happened after the election was so unfair in which Mujeeb's Awami League had clear majority to form a Govt. But our badmash army generals decided to use tanks to silence the majority party. Can you oranyone else justify army action of March 1971?

    If we accept your rocket-science theory of getting rid of a majority Province then advantages you have mentioned above should now be applied to all provinces in Pakistan. All Provinces should now say we want to form our own country.

    Simply answer this question: Would you disown or get rid of a brother who is poor in your family?

    I wished Gen Niazi to committ suicide before surrendering parade and shameful defeat on 16th December 1971.

    Posted 1 month ago on 12 Dec 2011 12:52 #
  22. Mr. Niazi represents the thinking of that group of people who have harmed this country alot, still they feel that they are on right path. It is very unfortunate.

    Bengalis were the people who created All India Muslim Leage. They were behind the idea of a separate homeland for the muslims of india.

    They are generally still better Muslims than we the Pakistanis now. They were very intelligent patriotic and brave. Take the example of MM Alam the great Pilot of PAF. They had every right to rule Pakistan because they were in majority. But this very group used Bhutto for their cause and then disposed him off like a tissue paper.

    Bhai Khuda kay laiy sambhal jao warna mit jao gay
    Aur tumhari dastaan bhi na hogi dastanoon main

    This group is already dominating bulk of resoursces of Pakistan but still they are feeling agrieved.

    Allah ham sab par raham karay aur hamaray Pakistan ko shad. o abad rakhay

    Posted 1 month ago on 12 Dec 2011 13:19 #
  23. @pakistani47

    Very well analysed and also correctly identified type of people which M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI represents in today's Pakistan. School of thought which he promotes in his comments believes in usurping rights of both minority and majority. Imagine Gen Zia is most favourite and inspiring leader of Mr. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI.

    May God keep our country safe from such negative minded people

    Posted 1 month ago on 12 Dec 2011 13:38 #
  24. DO NOT forget 16 Dec 1971

    http://jang.com.pk/jang/dec2011-daily/12-12-2011/col1.htm

    Posted 1 month ago on 12 Dec 2011 14:37 #
  25. It was a better option to keep some safety exit for separation of both East and West Pakistan provinces in case of their federation was of no use for them and infact was creating hatred against each other.

    Posted 1 month ago on 14 Dec 2011 13:19 #
  26. پتا نہیں کیوں جب مے نے ہیڈ لائن پڑھی اس تھریڈ کی ... مے سمج گیا کے یہ ضرور نیازی صاحب کا وبال ہو گا .. اسی لیے کھول کے بند کر دی .. توبہ توبہ .. الله ایسا حال کسی پے نہ لاۓ

    Posted 1 month ago on 14 Dec 2011 14:06 #
  27. jabalultariq
    Member

    I can see the benefits of separation vividly (sarcasm here)......but seriously are you joking....its the same justification offered by those who created Pakistan....there motives were completely opposite......Pakistan ka mutlub kiya was a hoax and they duped innocents into a frenzy......as for East & West sepration.....these vultures on both sides....the ultra rich pseudo-feudals with their roots embedded in army as well, wanted to enjoy there free hold over people and wealth. This isnt some new thesis I am bringing forth.

    Posted 1 month ago on 14 Dec 2011 15:26 #
  28. Rohail Taqi
    Member

    This is perhaps the worst article ever. Seems like school's boy approach towards a serious issue.

    The whole thing is based on assumption that Pakistan (west) is doing better compared to pre-partition, only...

    ITS NOT.

    Its not even doing better than Bangladesh today.

    Posted 1 month ago on 14 Dec 2011 16:22 #
  29. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    M.Akram
    "
    It was a better option to keep some safety exit for separation of both East and West Pakistan provinces in case of their federation was of no use for them and infact was creating hatred against each other.
    "

    So, the same rule applies to today's Pakistan ? So , if baloch want to exit federation , they should be allowed ?

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 2:32 #
  30. jabalultariq
    Member

    How about Indian Kashmir ?

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 2:50 #
  31. expakistani
    Member

    Only advantage i can see of separation is Bangladesh is independent nation.... and Punjab have bigger pie in quota system then Sindh, Balochistan and Khpkaw

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 3:43 #
  32. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    jabalultariq,

    If some indian will put such an argument , i will definately ask him about "indian" kashmir.

    Expakistani,

    Bigger advantange is an indpependent bengalis who r no more exposed to hatred of GENTLEMAN CADETS of KAKUL :)

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 3:51 #
  33. jabalultariq
    Member

    oh - so those Kahmiris are being raped and killed every day and there isnt a cause or a reason.

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 4:07 #
  34. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    JT,

    Aik tu aap bohut matlabi haain. Khud say matlab niklatey rehtay haain. Did i say anhthing like that ?

    Bahi meeray , bengalis , karachities or balochs killed by BAHDUR FAUJ were more legitimate citizens of pakistan then kashmirs are of india (accoring to pakistani point of view). Have we fixed our home ? Have we punished the culprits who have committed henious crimes in bengal , sindh and balochistan ? Then , kiss moonh say mein kashmir kii baat karoon.

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 4:12 #
  35. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    If the separation of East Pakistan was so advantageous, then many questions arise:

    1) Why was not Mujeeb given the right of becoming the PM of the United Pakistan?

    2) Why did our 90,000 soldiers have to surrender with a heavy insult over the nation?

    3) Why is not Pakistan ahead of Bangaldesh on the path of progress?

    In my opinion, the biggest loss was the break of the Muslim unity.

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 5:34 #
  36. oblivion
    member

    hussain farooqi
    Answer to your above questions

    "We are the hollow men
    We are the stuffed men
    Leaning together
    Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
    Our dried voices, when
    We whisper together
    Are quiet and meaningless
    As wind in dry grass
    Or rats’ feet over broken glass
    In our dry cellar

    Shape without form, shade without colour,
    Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 5:40 #
  37. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Good method being introduced to project our mishaps are achievements. Separation of East Pakistan was advantageous to us, ha ha ha

    Oblivion Bhai

    What tribute would you like to express for the heroes like Yahaya Khan, Tikka Khan and Niazi for their accomplishment? ha ha ha

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 6:22 #
  38. oblivion
    member

    What tribute would you like to express for the heroes like Yahaya Khan, Tikka Khan and Niazi for their accomplishment? ha ha ha

    Here is tribute

    بھلا اسے نہ سہی کچھ مجھی کو رحم آتا
    اثر مرے نفسِ بے اثر میں خاک نہیں

    meaning

    if Yahaya Khan, Tikka Khan and Niazi didn't feel pity, then so be it-- at least I myself would have felt pity at my dire condition... Because if that lamentation continued, then one day it would be the end of me

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 6:38 #
  39. junaid
    Member

    advantages on the death of thousands of innocent bagalis.
    not someting i would even think to buy.

    b.w nice poetry oblivion bhai.

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 6:44 #
  40. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    The tragedy of East Pakistan costed about 800,000 lives in total. Both Bengali and non-Bengali were killed in massive nos.. If the separation were so advantageous, what was the sense in paying such a heavy price? Why did we not withdraw peacefully without resistance? Why did Niazi signed the instrument of surrender with tears in his eyes? Why did he not celebrate the event happily?

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 10:03 #
  41. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    on a lighter note.

    When Dr.Sher Afghan Khan "Niazi" defected in 2002 to become patriot , Aitzaz Ahsan said

    "December is heavy on Niazis".

    Unfortunatley , this fits to Akram Niazi as well.

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 11:31 #
  42. jabalultariq
    Member

    SA - sorry to confuse. OK lets go back to the topic. How about ZAB ordered mass killing of Balochs , was that army's own initiative ???? offcourse not

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 14:44 #
  43. Ghost Protocol
    Member

    It seems somebody leaked feasibility study of Bangladesh by one of our Army generals. Also it was not conspiracy by India or Bengalis but patriotic Pakistanis???
    Mr.Akram deserve devil's intellectual prize for such an low article.

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 17:39 #
  44. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    JT

    ZAB was definately responsbile for that and paid a very heavy price at the hands of ANGELS. But again why ANGELS acted upon un-constitutional orders ?

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 19:30 #
  45. jabalultariq
    Member

    what is un-constitutional ? obeying the commander ? killing civilians ? its very subjective......balochs were not civilians , they were leaading an armed insurrection against the federation ? any ideas how to deal with Baloch leaders........if you have ever been to remote Baluchistan , there has never been rule of law........the political agent (our DC or AC) has jurisdiction of 5 KM or less rest is all the tribes running the show....so how do you decide between right or wrong ?

    Posted 1 month ago on 15 Dec 2011 20:58 #
  46. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Today is the surrender day of the Pakistani army in East Pakistan. Should we celebrate or mourn?

    Posted 1 month ago on 16 Dec 2011 8:06 #
  47. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    JT
    "
    what is un-constitutional ? obeying the commander ? killing civilians ? its very subjective
    "

    Firing on civlians is not subjective, its definately agianst the constituion. Bahi meeray , dhaka universtiy mein innocent professor or studnets ko line mein kharey kar kaay goli marna yaa females ko rape karna is not obeying order

    Obeying seniors order to impose martial law is definately un-constituional . everybody knows it.

    Posted 1 month ago on 16 Dec 2011 12:53 #
  48. jabalultariq
    Member

    SA - I think I was very clear but you are blinded in your hatred for our Army. If ZAB ordered the Army to move against Baloch insurrection , you are suggesting that Army's action was unconstitutional. I dont understand your logic , is'nt the purpose of Army to defend the nation , is only Indian Army a valid target , who and how we deal with internal threats ? by offering them flowers ?

    Having said that, I dont see any difference whether an Army General or ZAB (a virtual dictator without uniform) use the Army to curb civil disobediece or Armed insurrection.

    Posted 1 month ago on 16 Dec 2011 16:00 #
  49. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    JT,

    If u r reffering to balochistan operation of 70's , definately ZAB ordered that and paid its price at the hands of generals. But , don't u remember that elected baloch government was toppled by ZAB. And about armed struggle, was there any prior to toppling of elected government ? Was that constituional ? If it was then why Gen.Zia ul Haq disbanded hyderabad tribunal and released all being prosecuted under hyderabad tribunal ?

    Posted 1 month ago on 19 Dec 2011 13:11 #
  50. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Whenever there are any internal problems arise, very inadequate methods are applied. Operations in Baluchistan, FATA and Karachi were very inadequate. The operations in these cases rather aggravated the situations.

    Posted 1 month ago on 20 Dec 2011 5:03 #

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