Salam
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yahya87
shukria, adaab...
parhi to hay, per mey samjhta hun kay app jeysay veteran MQM supporter kay lia kuch bhi naya nahi hoga-
phil hal MQM walay do logic use kartay hain... bash some other personality in response or praise mustafa kamal's 3-4 years of work
aftab
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@ Qasim Ali
Is it true that MQM have gunda on every apartment block and if people don't do as they say they get special treatment meted out to them.
@aftab
App tu mujh say bhi ziada jantay ho MQM aur Karachi k baray mai....kia app mujhay bata saktay ho last time app nay bhatta MQM ko kab diya tha????
aftab
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@ yahya 87
Bhai aap naraz na ho, i am just asking a question from Qasim Saab because he seems to have a lot of knowledge on Karachi .
@Qasim ali
The whole post is at large emotional therefore not worth replying to the specifics. There is however one catchy phrase that speaks about the substance of your post, I quote "Thomas Jefferson once said: There is not a truth existing which I fear… or would wish unknown to the whole world"
If this is his actual quote then Tommy Jefferson definitely is as frail a founding father of that country as they come. Jefferson indeed is largely alleged to have fathered illegitimate children with his slave Sally Hemings which he did not let anyone know but only to be proved a couple of hundred years later by DNA testing. I guess he wanted to be a father of both White and Black America.
@aftab
App ki post mai koi naraz honay wali baat bilkul nahi aur na mai naraz ho raha hun.....mai tu aik chota sa sawal poch raha hun app say MQM k baray mai aur isko app meri narazgi samajh rahay ho...aisi koi baat nahi hai....
tamaazkhan
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@Qasim Ali + Aftab
You are right, MQM was actually started by Abu Lahab and the Zionists, who rule the world through the Free Masons and want to bring in the Illuminati New World Order.
I've also heard that the CCTV setup in Karachi can look into the bathrooms of very house, so that the MQM goons can check how much water is being used while showering and if people use too much water their bhatta collection increases.
The people Karachi are so uneducated, compared the rest of the country, that they would actaully vote for people from their own class and mohalla rather than a Mian, Chaudhry, Wadera, Sardar, Khawaja, Malik or Nawab.
What are they thinking? Are they stupid?
Oh no, my building's designated MQM goon is coming to ask for bhatta. He usually comes this time every week, we have chai, he takes my money and then I vote for him.
Who cares about infratructure and standing up to Taliban?
I vote becuase if I don't the MQM will read my mind and come toture me!
hahahahahahahahahaha!
you people are ridiculous
aftab
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@ tamaazkhan
Chalo G we are ridiculous and the disciples who sit and listen to Pir's telephonic message from London are all sane, I am happy you pay bhatta to MQM but i am more worried about the poor souls who DON'T want to pay.
tamaazkhan
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@aftab
In your nightmares, is there a guy from MQM standing at every street corner in Karachi extorting bhatta?
Maybe you need to wake up from these nightmares as they have no basis in reality.
You are more likely to be forced to pay Bhatta by the police in Karachi, than any political party.
I don't understand what is insane about listening to a speech from a political leader.
Maybe they want to know what issues the party stands for:
Things like urban development, mobility for middle classes, anti-feudalism, and defiance of Taliban.
After all do not people in Punjab listen to Shabaz Sharif, begging the Taliban to spare Punjab and go bomb other areas of Pakistan.
What is more insane?
aftab
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Is that what they call Tafu these days a Political Leader?
I am not supporter of SS but he is in Pakistan when giving those speeches.
aftab
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BTW are you allowed to laugh at the Pir's telephonic Khatab? I was in fits when he Tafu pulled that topi drama about him resigning from MQM.
aftab
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Since according to some people MQM is a anti-feudal party,why has it joined every feudal government for the last 20 years and works hand in glove with them, am i missing something about they stance on feudalism or is it just lip service for the disciples consumption.
@tamaazkhan
Actually these people have no good reasons to come up with so they resort to lip service as if they feel the real pain of the extorted who incidently are no where to be found, or are too scared to speak against even outside of Pakitan.
aftab
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The MQM-A allegedly raises funds through extortion, narcotics smuggling, and other criminal activities. In addition, Mohajirs in Pakistan and overseas provide funds to the MQM-A through charitable foundations (Jane's 14 Feb 2003).
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,,USCIS,,PAK,,414fe5aa4,0.html
I had a nightmare according to some people.
when MQM supporters can't answer a post, they either divert the topic to totally unrelated subject. It's the same about their fake leaders on tv/media. LOL
I recently showed his speech to punjabi's (sallaaaaaaaaaam) and his other hilarious dugdugee speeches to some of my colleagues (Greek, Indian and irish) and the couldn't believe that he was actually a POLITICAL leader.... lol
tamaazkhan
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@aftab
The day Altaf resigned for half a day was the same day Aitizaz Ahsan resgined from the Bar association post for half a day.
So what is your point?
MQM is evil because Altaf Hussain resigned for half a day?
The key word in your UN link is "allegedly", as in NOT PROVEN.
We know all the history of fake cases on political opponents in Pakistan.
Is your nightmare that Muhajirs from abroad send their money to MQM?
What, the goons collect bhatta from abroad as well? I did not know MQM controlled cities in other countries?
@Khan-Sahib
So your issue with MQM is the style of Altaf's speaking?
Wow, Deep!
aftab
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Asian Human Rights Commission
http://www.ahrchk.net/statements/mainfile.php/2008statements/1470/
This is really barbaric from MQM.
tamaazkhan
Member
@aftab from your website:
"The media and sources close to the bar associations reported "
And the proof?
aftab
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@ tamaazkhan
It was hilarious, that's all, come on even you must have had a smirk on your face.
tamaazkhan
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If you want to find bad things written about any party on the internet, you will find lots.
You can posts links all day...what does that prove?
If you will quote a system that posts fake FIRs, you have to quote the same system to find judicial proof of wrong doing.
From your website:
Not one individual from Pakistan.
Not one individual of noteworthy repute.
Board of Directors
Chairperson of the Board of Directors: John Joseph CLANCEY, Hong Kong
Director: CHEUNG Yiu-Leung, Hong Kong
Director: Basil FERNANDO, Sri Lanka
Director: Emiko Amy FURUYA, Japan
Director: Mathew GEORGE, India
Director: Aida Jean NACPIL-MANIPON, Philippines
Director: Rene V. SARMIENTO, Philippines
Director: Dr. YOON Jang-hyun, South Korea
tamaazkhan
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@Aftab
Forget smirk, I laughed my head off with that video.
I forwarded it to everyone I knew and we all had a good laugh.
aftab
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If "Asian Human Rights Commission" is not credible and you want me to believe MQM and Altaf Hussain are credible.
taamaz khan...
It is deep for your intellect level my friend. Have you ever heard of Psychiatric assessment? Thats what your leader needs!
Aftab.
Don't waste your time as MQM supporters just like their mafia Don doesn't know the meaning of human rights!
tamaazkhan
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@aftab
I am not expecting you to find MQM credible, but an article from 3rd party sources does not a guilty verdit make.
So you can post 5,000 articles from 3rd party sources, without citation and documentation, hell you can write your own bayan on what you think happened, but what weight does that carry?
@khan sahib
What makes you think I am an MQM supporter? I am a voter for sure, but far from a supporter.
The difference between you and me is that you like to vote for people that your Greek, Irish and Indian colleagues find suitable.
I live in Karachi I vote for the person from my locality, who provides me with the following:
Urban Development, Mobility for Middle Classes, Keeping Feudal Law out of Karachi, and Keeping Taliban Law out of Karachi.
I couldn't give less of a cr*p about what any Greek/Irish/Indian who doesn't live in Karachi thinks or any human rights organisation be it in Lahore or Hong Kong.
If they are not aware of the facts on the ground (as you obviously are not Khan Sahib) their allegations have no weight in my opinion.
Enjoy your stay abroad, at least you do not have to deal with Taliban, PPP, PML, JI.
Out of these devils most Karachiites chose MQM. If that burns you, what can I say:
"Burnol Lagaiyay"
Lagta hay barey zoar say laghee hay taamazk ko!
Jannab, the discussion was about MQM and not about my friends. Obviously, u fail to understand the "read between lines" and I am not going to SPELL it out for u.
I know more then your "Ground facts" as you are clearly blinded with the MQM mania. Unlike you, I support people who are honest, who are not involved in killing innocent people. you may wish to forget the past of MQM but none of Punjabis or Pushtuns will ever forget their hideous past.
MQM lives in some I D I O T's fantasy that they will capture Karachi and will rule this city. By naming it Muthidda won't change any thing. If they can't "Tolerate" their own Muhajirs (Haqeeqi and the one who don't support MQM) then how could they tolerate other ethnicities which is evident with their recent killing of Pashtuns and Baluch's.
Rahee baat Burnol kee... uss kee zaroorat shayed aap ko na parey kayoun kay jalney say.. aap ko aab skin grafting kee zaroorat parey ghee! Ha HA
tamaazkhan
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Khan Sahib...you know lots of facts living in London town. At least I live in Karachi.
To get ground realities all I need to do is step outside my house. You find your realities on pkpolitics.com (its obvious).
You are affected by the decisions made by your MP in the UK, so please spare me your:
"I live in UK, but feel I can tell Karachiites who to support."
My friend its not only the rights of Punjabi and Pakhtoons to have long memories. Gohar Ayub's riot march, Aligarh society massacres and shelling in Orangi town is also not easily forgotten.
Sahib, open your eyes MQM gets majority of votes from Karachi already. Oh sorry, when you open your eyes you see London, not Karachi, how will you be able to tell?
(I know bhatta, MQM mind reader on every street corner, free mason ect. ect.)
Lastly, it is not good form to use other peoples jokes. At least be a little more creative and come up with your own joke.
Enjoy your life in London.
oh ho ho...
U really get p i s s e d off just because I am in london now?
What about your DON Altaf Kalia who is living in london on Bhatta's and extortion money? Atleast, I earn my money the Halal way unlike your DON Altaf who lives on Zakaat! Why don't u denounce him as a non karachite or non Pakistani as he has a British Passport too unlike you! ;-)
You obviously do suffer from an ailment which does require treatment... ;-)
My friend, how many Muhajirs were killed from 1948 till 1984 and then How many Punjabi and Pushtuns were killed just between 1986 and 2006? You do the math as you guys are too good in maths of Bhatta and Qurabani's Skin (Khaal) Snatching! lol
tamaazkhan
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No need to get personal Khan Sahib.
I never mentioned whether your earnings are Haram or Halal. All I said is that because you live in London, your information is based on 3rd party sources, mine is based on first hand experience.
I do not vote for Altaf (btw when has he ever run for elections, even while living in Karachi?). I gave my vote to my local MPA and MNA who lives in my mohalla. Our local MPA we see on a weekly basis.
I do not understand why you are comparing yourself to politicians. Are you asking for my vote?
Why are you comparing body counts?
How do you know I have taken Bhatta?
How do you know I have stolen Quarbani ki Khaal?
Your outrageous comments and baseless allegations, show your state of mind not mine!
Tamaazk...
You don't see your short comings but u are quick to point out about my raised points as baseless.
Didn't u start raising the issue of my friends where i was merely trying to raise the issue of Altaf Kaalia's Mental status! A person with such a Personality who sounds like a joker/ Madari in his speech's is actually steering the most educated ethnic group of pakistan which itself is a disgrace to this ethnic group.
when u talk about long memories (not sure, If I know such things called long memories) of Muhajir's then why is it so painful for you to count bodies so that u know that more People have been killed after creation of MQM by ISI. MQM is the sole reason of ethnic divide in Karachi and the increasing hatred among masses! Pehlay hum sirf shia aur sunni riots ko rotay thay Iwoh bhee sirf muharram may) lakin since MQM creation aab yeah khoof 24/7, 365 days a year hota hay!
You obviously are blinded with the love of your kind and do need to see others as humans too. In the end, I may remind u that no matter what your party thinks, Karachi belongs to every one and not a sole property of MQM!
YOu can carry on your ranting but i am going to ignore u as you are also one of those MQM supporters who have been brain washed by the amrit they received from their own elders!
tamaazkhan
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Khan Sahib,
You called me a Bahtta Khor and a Qurbani Khal Chor, without any proof.
- Is that not baseless? Is it not okay for me to object.
You told me your apprehension to MQM was the way Altaf speaks and what your Greek/Irish/Indian collegues think.
Then you started talking about your income and comparing it to Altaf's for God knows what reason.
You claim that while living in London, your knowledge of Karachi is better than those who live in Karachi.
Now according to you, sectarian violence occured in Karachi BEFORE communal violence.
For your information (don't take my word, consult news reports) there were a negligent number of sectarian incidences in Karachi before 1980's. Communal violence between Karachi's inhabitants has been going on since 1960's.
You keep dragging 'my kind', Punjabi, Pakhtoon and other ethnicities into this conversation when I have not discussed anything on ethnic lines at all.
All I said was despite you advice all the way from London, Me and many other Karachiites prefer to vote for someone that we know who is from our class and from our Mohalla with a record of development.
Now, please inform me which of these statements are MQM propoganda?
Like you said somewhere else - It is very annoying when people cannot get over their bias and insert it into every topic, regardless of substance.
@Khan sahib,
i 100 % agree with you ..
all your posts and arguments are making complete sense to me ....
say-truth
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@Yahya87+barackosama.-Pl. tell me who was behind these ,12th May,2007,27th Dec,2oo7,19 April,2oo8 and,28th Dec,2009.-Whole world known that Mustaquil Qoumi Musibat was fully involved in all these incidents.
To know about the Bolton Market,looting read this article,and reply.-!!
Re: Capital Talk 5th January 2010
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MQM **** GROUP = Blackwater/Xe
MQM and Blackwater/Xe are US sponsored mafia style mercenary outfits due to their management structure as it is almost the same both groups’ chiefs are out of Pakistan to start with.
Look What Karachi Youth Did
“There is no difference between Tehreek Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and MQM because both are sponsored by India and USA. Sawat type operation against MQM’s ‘Clean Shaven Taliban’ who are supporting Blackwater/Xe is a must because people will support. President Zardari, the ‘Putin of Pakistan’ can he do anything of for Karachi or he has become a cuddly toy now?”
The recent bombings of a religious procession in Karachi and fire bombings of small businesses miles away from the incident reportedly owned by mostly Sunni Tableghie Jamat a non violent religious group, got all the hall marks of ‘private mercenaries’ Blackwater with the support of MQM. According to reports it is physically not possible for any one attending the procession to go miles away, get special fire bombing chemicals and equipment to set fire 300 hundred shops in Bolton Market. It is only possible if one already knows the timing of the bombings and part of the plot. They targeted a Sunni areas where it is almost impossible for an angry ‘Shia protestor’ to reach from the crime scene keeping in the view the distances. So Shia procession was bombed, Sunni business were burnt down and MQM’s fire engines did not arrive. Seems perfect Blackwater Inc style operation?
Blackwater, MQM’s Plus plan was meticulous and well timed. (a) Timing of the bombing few days before the end of the term of City Government Term. So City Government building burnt down with the record to cover-up corruption? (b) Selection of the venues to be fire bombed (c) Torching of Light House Market predominantly owned by the Pashtuns who did not pay extortion money to the MQM – Score settled, Job done (d) Torching of Bolton Market mostly business are owned by peaceful Sunni Muslims Memon Community. They refused to be relocated outside the city because shops worth millions. High ups of the current regime allegedly President Zardari & Co had interest in the land to develop and build flats and plazas. (Job done) (e) Why MQM leaders both reportedly Shias Haider Abbas Rizvi and Faisal Sabzwari not in the Ashura procession? (f) Why police and rangers did not stop the arsonists and terrorists? (g) Who ordered them not to act? (h) Remote control bomb was planted in an ambulance which might be carrying a head too? (i) Who is Hasham Al-Zafar (central) and what is his role in the bombing and burning of Karachi? (j) What is his relationship with Saleem Shezad alleged master mind of the operation and why he only reports to Altaf Hussain?
MQM and Blackwater/Xe are US sponsored mafia style mercenary outfits due to their management structure as it is almost the same both groups’ chiefs are out of Pakistan to start with. MQM are the local collaborators of Blackwater/Xe in Pakistan?
According to sources similar kinds of chemicals and fire bombing equipments have been used in Iraq and Lebanon. Pakistan’s security agencies must look into the links between MQM lead City Government and Blackwater. What kind of assistance they are providing to the mercenaries. City mayor Syed Mustafa Kamal and Governor Sind Dr Ashrat Abad Khan recently visited sensitive institutions of the USA related to protection of US national interests aboard. Why would a mayor of a third world country visit US State Department? Did he inform Pakistani’s foreign ministry? He is on the grooming list. “To his credentials it was Mustafa Kamal who opened the door for the assassins came to kill his ‘uncle’ Azeem Ahmed Tariq, leader of the MQM, as it was an inside job. It sounds like nephew shopped his ‘uncle’ according to a source.
Altaf Hussain’s MQM and his mafia have caused more economic and human losses to Pakistan by strikes and terrorist activities then three wars with India. After the incident on Monday December 28, 2009, three thousand shops were burnt; one thousand were burnt after looting which caused loss of Rs. 60 billion to Pakistani economy. Armed men stopped fire engines for over three hours according to reports. Why?
Elements close to MQM were also allegedly involved in the terrorism, arson, and killings after tragic death of Benazir Bhutto on 27th December 2007. Many analysts believe that it was a dry run by the foreign sponsored elements to separate Karachi from the rest of the country. There is another dimension to the burring of some markets with small business. Some people from land mafia were making hostile offers to these old pre partition businesses.
There are reports that MQM has issued thousands of arms licences to its workers and sympathisers in Karachi and some of the licences might have been issued from other provinces. Disarming of the terrorist groups including MQM in Karachi is necessary to avoid future blackmails.
It is also reported that armed gunmen did not allow fire engines to leave the fire stations. All the fire engines and security cameras are under the control of City Government run by MQM whose leader Altaf Hussain controls this group in a mafia style. Within minutes he blamed ‘Taliban’ for the bombings. How did he know it was Taliban and not Indian RAW or Blackwater/Xe? Altaf Hussain deliberately tried to make this a sectarian issue in his live TV broadcast on a news channel, which matches the agenda of private mercenaries and India.
Asia Times Online reported few years ago during Musharraf era, sources says that, “only US diplomatic intervention stopped General Musharraf from taking strong action against the MQM after he received the report on the recent unrest in which the MQM was implicated. Washington indeed has a powerful southern ally in Pakistan’. After September 11, the United States identified even more with the MQM as it was the only party in Pakistan that widely mourned the attacks on the US, openly condemned the Taliban and al-Qaeda, and launched a powerful campaign in support of the US attack on Afghanistan”.
When President Zardari speak about ‘non state & political actors’, probably he also meant Altaf Hussain too? His long distance proactive and dramatic telephonic speeches are more or less what Lord Nelson said, “If you can’t baffle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull****!”. He is never been to Pakistan for more then 15 years but did travel to India on his British passport. Most of the members in mafia style ‘Rabita Committee’ are wanted by Pakistani authorities for heinous crimes. He hides behind this ‘kangaroo committee’.
A political analyst said, ‘to get ‘poodle status’ in US administration Altaf Hussain exaggerates things beyond imagination. For example, he claimed his supporters in Karachi increased by 10 million in just two years because he claimed to have 20 million supporters in an interview with Edgware Times in November 1998. But in 2001 MQM claimed to have 30 million supporters when MQM send a fax to Reuters on 22 September 2001. “ (MQM leader) Altaf Hussain has offered the unconditional support of over 30 million MQM supporters to the U.S. president and the international community,” its London-based international secretariat said in a statement faxed to Reuters on September 22, 2001”.
According to sources, ‘Altaf group is planning and preparing for armed fight with other groups in Karachi. There might be a plan to divide Karachi on ethnic zones as Rehman Malik mentioned in Dera Ismail Khan? The alleged transfer of money from Karachi to London, Germany, Dubai, South Africa, Canada, and United States is alarming. There reports of increase in the arms sale in Karachi seem serious but what are the authorities doing?
So what is Altaf Hussain up to that is a crucial question to political and security leadership to think about. His alleged close links with the Indian agency and also acting like a mercenary force getting orders from foreign masters. It is time for the government of Pakistan to approach its friends and allies to have a clear cut answers about the real Agenda in Pakistan? Crimes of Altaf Hussain and his party MQM are so heinous that he wouldn’t dare step in Karachi even the whole period of Musharraf and now Zardari rule?
Until November 1998 Government of Pakistan was reportedly seeking extradition of Altaf Hussain who was said to be wanted in 50 murders and 150 cases of kidnapping and arson. He said in an interview with a newspaper in 1998, “It is my wish that they take me to trial in a British court then I will tell people nationally and internationally what has been happening in Pakistan.” It was Altaf Hussain and MQM who issued a memo to his workers saying,” if there was war between India and Pakistan, MQM workers will be remain neutral”. Why?
MQM’s deputy chief organiser of district Thatta and his wife were arrested by the police for trafficking 120 kilos of A class drugs according to a press report on 16th May 2004. Mohamed Ibrahim and his wife Ayesha Soho who is also member of district government were coming from Bolan area of Baluchistan on Jeep number BC 1248 when they were stopped by Dadar Police who discovered 180 kilos of HASH worth millions of from the secret compartments of the jeep. Police has registered a case number 13/2004 report against deputy chief of MQM and his wife for drug trafficking. Area in charge SHO of the area Police confirmed that suspects have confessed they have been also involved in arms trafficking from Kabul and been to Afghanistan three times. Both were sent to Sibi Jail in Baluchistan.
“MQM has been funded with the drug money apart from the extortion money taken from the top businessmen in the name of support” according to a report published by The Frontier Post on December 25, 1998. The report says, “… What is more alarming is that the Narco dollars have been used for funding the (MQM), A responsible source in the provincial government said. He added that such funding was tantamount to fuelling terrorism.” Is the Narco-terror funding still on?
By joining as local collaborator of Blackwater in Karachi MQM has provided the eyes and ears on the ground with smart guns. Even if US-India sponsored ‘Pakistani Taliban’ claim responsibility of Karachi Ashura bombings, the chemicals and smart guns used in burnings of the over 6000 small businesses and loss of Rs. 60 billion have all the hallmarks of Blackwater/Xe.
“There is no difference between Tehreek Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and MQM because both are sponsored by India and USA. Sawat type operation against MQM’s ‘Clean Shaven Taliban’ who are supporting Blackwater/Xe is a must because people will support. President Zardari, the ‘Putin of Pakistan’ can he do anything of for Karachi or he has become a cuddly toy now?”
(Dr Shahid Qureshi is award winning journalist and writer on foreign policy & security based in London)
or exhibitions).say truth.
@Qasim bhai....lagta hai app ko MQM nay waqai kuch aisa kia tha k app ki roh abhi bhi bhatak rahi hai....Bhai yar agar app apnay favorite Thelondonpost AKA lala musaa evening special say bhi agar quote kar rahay ho tu pora copy paste karnay ki kia zaroorat hai sirf important points ko copy paste kar k nichay link day do kafi hai loog khud hi samajh jaingay....itna sara muwad tu shayad koi MQM basher bhi parhna pasand nahi karega....
@Qasim bhai ,
sub ko pata hay ,MQM aik ghunda jamaat hay .
sawaye Yahya bhai aur Lal Bichoo bhai jaan kay.
Salam
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yahya87
come on bhai, refute the points, no need to ridicule the pointer-
@KHAN_Sahib
MQM created by Zia was actually declared by PPP afetr MQM left their Govt. in 1990 due to protest for Hyderabad pakka qila massacre and even PPP themselves apologized for their words as it was not even close to truth but you accept it as a fact....PPP said many things like they are not involve in money laundering why dont you accept that as well or NRO was done with good attention???I know their is no connection between both but both are the words of same party who accused MQM by calling it Zia's creation....so do you accept their views about NRO and money laundering as well???If yes then its ok but if not then isnt it a double standard of yours that you can accept them on MQM because of your hatred while on all other occasions they are lying???
Before MQM PPP was supported by Sindhis and Baluch in Karachi while other ethnic group never accepted them in Karachi so in Sindh they have always tried to protect Sindhi vote bank even before existence of MQM so its wrong to conclude that MQM is a SOLE reason for ethnic divide because PPP also flame Sindhi Muhajir or urban interior hatred way before MQM and you have also forgot Ayub Khan who got no support from areas like LaluKhet, Nazimabad and other Muhajir majority areas and then he brought many Ghundas from up country to get some support this history is also well known as many old people still know about what Ayub Khan's son did after victory so first check the history of Karachi and dont just go through the period that suits your perception....As you said sectarian violence were their before existence of MQM how many sectarian you can report before the Afghan fasad in Karachi when those Jihadis were paid and sheltered by Gen. Zia???sectarian violence have another dimension that was started in Gen. Zia's period during Afghan fasad and before that they were so rare to be nonexistent in Karachi....Even this start along with ethnic problem in Karachi due to deprivation of Karachiite in bureaucracy and also due to behavior of negligence by Govt. authorities on the welfare of the people as govt. was failed to provide or at least monitor the public transport even.....
All your points so far against MQM is based on past condition and media reports but so far you have said nothing related to current situation of Karachi so even if I can accept your perception then its all based on past but present condition looks very different from past situation so still your side lack current scenario of Karachi....
say-truth
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@Yahya87.- Learn to digest truth, nothing but truth.-
221. Shall I inform you, (O people!), on whom it is that the evil ones descend? Holly Quran
222. They descend on every lying, wicked person.-Holly Quran.
22. "Ye did not seek to hide yourselves, lest your hearing, your sight, and your skins should bear witness against you! But ye did think that Allah knew not many of the things that ye used to do
Then the Blast overtook them with justice, and We made them as rubbish of dead leaves (floating on the stream of Time)! So away with the people who do wrong! -23/41
STAND FIRM FOR TRUTH
135. O ye who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it is (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well- acquainted with all that ye do.4/135.
No more comments.-say truth,nothing but truth.salams to all
aftab
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Four MQM-Haqiqi workers shot dead in Karachi
I wonder who killed these people, will we ever bring the culprits to justice?
cogitoergosum
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Either Blackwater or Jamiat is behind this incidence !
Or may be Zaid Hamid ! :))
@aftab
This haqiqi is something that need to be punished more then that because last year they shot at JSQM leader Bashir Quraishi if he died then a wave of Sindhi Muhajir riots would have started and it would take whole Sindh with it as Taliban threat is already their along with Muhajir Pathan problem is also coming in discussion so they are good to be dead because they are enough to create fasad in Sindh...
@Qasim Bhai....All I am asking is make your post short by summarizing it and by providing reference in the end and you are quoting Quran and Hadees, are you all right???or if something is wrong then get well soon....
aftab
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Of course Zaid did this who lives Rawalpindi and MQM-A who reside in Karachi are totally innocent of course.
cogitoergosum
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aftab,
"""Of course Zaid did this who lives Rawalpindi and MQM-A who reside in Karachi are totally innocent of course. """
>>>
I agree with you :)
What about your Tanga Party, it's getting stronger and stronger in Karachi !
May be someone from Tanga Party has done it :)
Check this :)
tamaazkhan
Member
Aftab when anyone dies in Karachi...whose fault is it?
Where is your proof?
Or are these another one of those baseless FIRs based on your bias.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
We, the good people of Pakistan have to bear arguments of these people among us, because justice system is not working according to Islam's standards, in Pakistan.
If it was working, no body would be even bother listening to these people.
*sigh*
@aftab
Do you know about killing of few mufti in Karachi few days ago before they got killed they issued fatwa against Zaid Hamid....
http://loadpictures.net/pics/840b8509ecb683c889c7de2a8b12e8d0.jpg
aftab
Member
@ tamaazkhan
Read my post again its not me who started making baseless allegations.
aftab
Member
@ yahya87
I don't give 2 hoots about Zaid Hamid but i don't believe he killed those mufti's.
cogitoergosum
Blocked
Zaid Hamid has been nominated in FIR by mullahs !
http://aacounterterror.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/z-12.jpg
For some Zaid Hamid is an ISI puppet ?
@aftab
Even I dont believe that he killed those muftis as that incident happened 3 KM away from my residence but still assuming this Zaid Hamid is clean is a bad idea...
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