http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ PKPolitics Discuss Forum en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:26:29 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116342 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:51:40 +0000 choosy 116342@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>@Lal Bichoo,<br /> kabhi topic pe bhi baat kar liya karo bhai.<br /> aur bolnay ko kuch nahin hay tu chup raha karo.:( </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116338 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:49:30 +0000 LalBichoo 116338@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Ok, Salam, </p> <p>Here is first rhyme of IR in Khalifa-nagri</p> <p>Ummah Ummah karta chal<br /> Ummah hee say darta chal</p> <p>Ummah Ummah kar bhiya<br /> Ummah hee say dar bhiya </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116337 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:49:03 +0000 azzmat 116337@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>sarcastic remarks are part of discussion and are used to make a point. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116336 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:46:49 +0000 Salam 116336@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>I think instead of indulging in exchange of sarcastic remarks why not we discuss and focus on international relations? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116335 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:45:20 +0000 azzmat 116335@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>ghazwa hind or jihad hind ka koie faida nahie. Agar 800 saal hakoumat kar kaie bhiee hindu musliman nahie howay tu abb kiya different hou ga. Itnay hindoun ka achar dalna haie. Ghar maie khanie ko nahie aur maa gie melay maie shopping karney. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116318 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:31:06 +0000 choosy 116318@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>@Lal Bichoo ,<br /> kiya topic hay aur kiya baat hu rahi hay ?<br /> yaar kabhi tu topic be baat kar liya karo.<br /> tabiyat sambhal jaye gi ..inshallah .<br /> :) </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116316 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:28:27 +0000 LalBichoo 116316@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Alhamdolillah, Ghazwa-e-Hind is gonna start soon !<br /> Lal Qilla pay Pakistan ka sabz hilaali parcham lahray gaa :)<br /> Imran Khan will be Khalifa and Zaid Zion Hamid will be his Wazir, and Hamid Gulfaroosh will be Sipa Salaar :))) </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116289 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:34:47 +0000 azzmat 116289@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>You dont have one do you? In that case attack india </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116287 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:33:13 +0000 Salam 116287@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>we are working on that part :) </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116286 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:32:12 +0000 azzmat 116286@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>What is the plan to get freedom for Pakistan? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116284 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:30:11 +0000 Salam 116284@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>@ azzmat,</p> <p>I totally agree, we first need to get freedom for Pakistan and then deal with enemies such as India. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116283 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:28:45 +0000 azzmat 116283@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>maybe you need to work on getting a piece of land for yourself before declaring war on India. More reasonable thinking. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116282 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:27:09 +0000 Salam 116282@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>azzmat,</p> <p>That right, currently there is not a single country that Muslims &#39;own&#39; :)</p> <p>All of our lands are under the control of others. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116281 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:24:45 +0000 azzmat 116281@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Shah Rukh Khan and Amir Khan would really love Wazirstan! Sania mirza would love it even more. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116279 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:21:46 +0000 LalBichoo 116279@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>LOLzzz</p> <p>Where is Ummah ?</p> <p>Where is she hiding ? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116278 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:21:33 +0000 azzmat 116278@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>In the whole world you dont have 1 country that can own you? How about relocating them to tribal areas? We have people from all over world living there. If we can raise the funds than the relocation can happen there.<br /> You might wanna ask the indian muslims that do they wanna move or stay in india and sing sare jihan saie acha hindustan humara wriiten by iqbal. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116275 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:17:49 +0000 Salam 116275@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Pakistan is not making any offer to Muslims of India to migrate here? Pakistan is under control of tyrant dictators, so have no hope from these stooges.</p> <p>Saudi kings are also tyrant rulers who collaborated with british colonials and used to get 5000 pounds per month salary. Again stooges of the west so have no hope from them.</p> <p>Kuwait is just a shrapnel of iraq don&#39;t even count it as a country.</p> <p>Bangladesh =same reality as Pakistan. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116273 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:16:28 +0000 azzmat 116273@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>There relocation movement would give one more opportunity to collect CHANDA and people who are tired of other muhibwatan projects will donate for this one. Saudi Arabia might pay for it in one shot what is 2-3 billion for them. Loose change.<br /> Than we can concentrate on our dushman and have a good battle.<br /> 15 crore muslims in pakistan can shelter 15 crore muslims from India and when India is empty of our brothers than we will fight bravely to win the mother of all battles. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116271 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:14:14 +0000 LalBichoo 116271@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>hahahaha</p> <p>azzmat, good point buddy !</p> <p>BTW have you seen Ummah anywhere lately ? :))) </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84/page/2#post-116268 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:12:28 +0000 azzmat 116268@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Fata, wazirstan, Pakistan, bangladesh, saudi arabia, kuwait, rest of the ummah will welcome with open arms right? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-116267 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:10:55 +0000 Salam 116267@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>why do they still live there? </p> <p>tell me if they got any better alternative? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-116266 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:09:27 +0000 azzmat 116266@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>How many muslims live in India? If India is such a bad place why do they still live there? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-116262 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:59:00 +0000 LalBichoo 116262@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>&quot;&quot;&quot;Because sikhas don&#39;t control govt or policy on kashmir or policy on foreign affairs or policy on army or policy on building dams to steal water etc etc you get the point? &quot;&quot;&quot;</p> <p>&gt;&gt;&gt;</p> <p>What&#39;s the meaning of your above comments ?<br /> Doesn&#39;t it target Hindu community ? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-116261 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:57:08 +0000 Salam 116261@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>I am personally against general hate against any ethnicity or people, there are always good and bad in a society.</p> <p>When we talk about India as a neighbor country then we criticize Inida as a state which doesn&#39;t mean that we hate any particular religion or people.</p> <p>State policies of India are anti-Pakistan. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-116248 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:33:11 +0000 LalBichoo 116248@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>LOLzzz</p> <p>Current PM of India is a Sikh, isn&#39;t he ?? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-116244 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:25:43 +0000 Salam 116244@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Because sikhas don&#39;t control govt or policy on kashmir or policy on foreign affairs or policy on army or policy on building dams to steal water etc etc you get the point? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-116241 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:16:22 +0000 Raza76 116241@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>I think we have enough of natural hate. That happens only when you spread propaganada among the masses, between govt its ok.. but in nationas it has no cure but due process of time.<br /> I just mean to raise a point, at partition worst attrosties were doen in Indina held Punjab mostly by Sikhas.. but most of us do not hate them.. Why? </p> <p>Let us adopt a rational approach about our relations to Indina and should also push them to become logical. This hate thing does not yield anything. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-116213 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:53:07 +0000 Beenai 116213@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>though ,i DO NOT like Hamid Gul ,as a dubious character in Pakistani scene ...</p> <p>but will agree with the point he made .<br /> that we have a very natural Hate and Hate relationship with India ... </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115979 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:13:46 +0000 S.E.Mirza 115979@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>@above<br /> Pakistan was separated from India in 1947, Indian hatred with Pakistan could be natural.</p> <p>Pakistan was &#39;carved out&#39; of the &#39;subcontinent.&#39; Not Indian hatred but RSS motivated hatred through hindutva is active agianst Pakistanis. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115928 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:48:55 +0000 M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI 115928@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Foolish enemity with India:<br /> Pakistan was separated from India in 1947, Indian hatred with Pakistan could be natural,but it is the duty of all Pakistanis to work against this enemity and hatred and not to become a victim of this enemity and hatred .</p> <p>*India will always try to harm to Pakistan but it is our duty to not to give any chance to India for such harmful acts of enemity.<br /> * India will always try to keep at distance its Muslims population from Pakistan by giving Pakistan an status of enemy state, but it is our duty to keep good relations with Muslims of India.<br /> * India will always try to prevent from developing good relations of Pakistan with Afghanistan and Bangladesh, but it is our duty to keep good relations with these Muslims countries.</p> <p>*India will never transfer technology to Pakistan, but it is our duty to keep ouselves updated with science and technology even achieved from India.</p> <p>* India will never give us rivers water, but it is our duty to demand proper and agreed share of river&#39;s water from India.</p> <p>* Indian films,songs,dramas and books may be used to strengthen Pakistani culture and Educations.</p> <p>* It was possible before 1971 to use Indian films, songs, dramas and books for promotion of Urdu in East Pakistan ,but some vested interest people are so much blind in Indian enemity that we even don&#39;t know that what is in our interest what is not in our interest.</p> <p>* Indian culture ,Indian literature,Indian books can not give any harm to Pakistan,it is Indian enemity which is harming us and it is our fool leaders who want to keep us engage in an enemity with six times larger country.</p> <p>Enemity with India is not in Pakistan interest but is infact in the interest of India.</p> <p>If we want to librate Kashmir and want to make ourselves stronger than we shall have to follow the policies of Quaid-e-Azam and General Zia-ul-Haq,<br /> Quaid-e-Aza who was able to gain libration of both West Pakistan and East Pakistan without any enemity or war.<br /> Or General Zia-ul-Haq who with his tactics was able for the libration of one dozen Muslims countries of Central Asia,Afghanistan and Union of West and East Germany and was even able to build steel mill with the help of Soviet Union.<br /> Otherwise by following the boasting and firing policies of Bhutto and Musharaf we shall just suffer from defeats as in 1971.</p> <p>We all should try to neutralize the enemity of India and we all must work how to use India for our advantage in the presence of Indian enemity. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115754 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:01:50 +0000 Patriot 115754@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>It seems that another politician is in the making. Hamid Gul! And if it happens, I believe he may prove his worth more than the current good for nothing politicians. At least he sounds a patriot and has a logical stand on India and Kashmir related issues. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115747 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:38:42 +0000 Salam 115747@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Shock,</p> <p>If I look back at history then I see that British Formula of partition was back stabbed by british &amp; bharat.</p> <p>Kashmir is part of Pakistan but british/bharat conspired to keep it away... do you ever wonder why?</p> <p>Your comparison of Kashmir with Afghanistan and terming it as &quot;same strategy&quot; raises doubts on your geopolitical comprehension capabilities. My friend these strategies NEVER failed!</p> <p>If these strategies had failed then you would have seen Pakistan as USELESS state, but as we see today whole west is looking up to Pakistan&#39;s role!</p> <p>General Hamid Gul as a person is nothing for me, I only agree with his stance on Kashmir &amp; Bharat and consider it to be the reflection of masses of Pakistan. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115746 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:19:09 +0000 Shock 115746@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>@Salam</p> <p>If you look back in our history, we had two wars in Kashmir already. We then started the same strategy that we used in Afghanistan, which also failed. We often ignore, what the Kashmiris want. The truth is that they neither want to be with India, nor with Pakistan. The best way forward is diplomacy. </p> <p>It seems that you are also changing by agreeing that Hameed Gul is not a role model. This is definitely a positive change. I hope you continue on this path, Salam. This kind of thinking will change Pakistan for the better. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115744 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:05:35 +0000 Salam 115744@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Actually it is not about what a man wants or what is the mentality of one retired general, it would be naive to think like that.</p> <p>General Hamid Gul represents mentality of majority of Pakistanis on Kashmir &amp; India, check surveys to get the numbers &amp; figures.</p> <p>India&#39;s Cold Start Doctrine is something that is a grave danger to security of the Peoples of Pakistan. </p> <p>Hamid Gul is a good response to Indian Military mentality, but I agree that he is not a person who can be aped as role model, he has weaknesses in personal capacity but as far as his stance on Kashmir &amp; India is concerned, peoples of Pakistan are with that stance- </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115743 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:47:40 +0000 Shock 115743@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Well, Hameed Gul can ahead with his Dushmani. If he is such a great General, then why did Pakistan loose Siachen when he was in the army&#39;s top brass, and the right hand man of Zia ul haq. He blongs to the army, that has always lost. I mean they can&#39;t even capture or kill Hakeemullah or any of the talibans, and they want to fight India. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115741 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:26:07 +0000 Salam 115741@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Look at the Indian concern on Pakistan, they dig up all security related matters and only post from indian perspective, kabhi to bhol ker Pakistani side bhi ley lia karo!</p> <p>You rush to paste BBC propaganda but forget that it is mouth piece of your colonial masters, remember that it is not just Fact Sharing institute, they share news with certain perspective and format to reflect their mindset and policy. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115690 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:32:53 +0000 netengr 115690@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>I like to Request HM ,JI and other ,please make Lahore the head quarter of all Jihadi groups and bring &quot;Islami Inqilab&quot; in Lahore and Rawalpindi first . </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115688 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:19:00 +0000 Migel9 115688@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Ahh the mental midget is not ban yet by the adm..amazing.<br /> Adm is expecting from a deranged sub human mole of hatred,rational logical thought is laughable.Three enemies of muslims coward zionist and hindu zionist cant fight alone with Pakistan have to bring Satan america for help.<br /> America is defeated by the mujahids of Khorrasan..Look at them run coward rapist crusaders.</p> <p>1.Enemy number one Hindustan</p> <p>2.Enemey number two America enemy of ISLAM.</p> <p>3.Demonic entity israhell.<br /> We need to nuke india and israhell at the same time. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115686 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:09:24 +0000 SAZA 115686@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>YES! I ENDORSE THE REMARKS OF HAMEED GULL, I AM ENEMY OF INDIA, SHE IS MY TARGET ALONG WITH PEOPLE LIKE &quot;مذہب و جہاد بیزار &quot; NETENGR. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115650 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:05:53 +0000 hariskhan 115650@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,</p> <p>Kashmir is for Muslims INSHALLAH.</p> <p>Both Kashmiri, Jihadi = Muslim </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115649 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:00:17 +0000 Salam 115649@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>What is BBC&#39;s stance on Kashmir conflict?</p> <p>They are the ones who lit all these fires and conflicts in their colonies... and their colonial subjects still uphold their propaganda :) </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-115647 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:56:28 +0000 netengr 115647@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Kashimir ,Kashmiriyon ka ya Jiahdiyon ka ?</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/02/100208_jklf_jehadis_hameed_gul.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/02/100208_jklf_jehadis_hameed_gul.shtml</a></p> <p>خود مختار کشمیر کی حامی تنظیم جموں کشمیر لبریشن فرنٹ یا ’جے کے ایل ایف‘ نے مطالبہ کیا کہ پاکستان کی خفیہ ایجنسآئی ایس آئی کے سابق سربراہ جنرل رٹیائرڈ حمیدگل اور پاکستانی جہادی تنظیموں پر پاکستان کے زیر انتظام کشمیر میں داخلے پر پابندی عائد کی جائے۔</p> <p>جے کے ایل ایف کے رہنماؤں نے مزید کہا کہ اگر پاکستان کی جہادی تنظیموں کو بھارت کے خلاف جہاد کرنے کا شوق ہے تو وہ یہ شوق کشمیر کی بجائے کہیں اور جاکر پورا کریں اور اس کے لیے کشمیر کی سرزمین استعمال نہ کی جائے۔</p> <p>انہوں نے کہا کہ یہ وہی لوگ ہیں جھنوں نے کشمیر کی قومی آزادی کی تحریک کو دہشت گردی کی تحریک بنانے کی کوشش کی جس میں ناکامی کے بعد وہ بوکھلا گئے ہیں۔</p> <p>انہوں نے پاکستان کے زیر انتظام کشمیر کی حکومت سے مطالبہ کیا ہے کہ وہ کشمیر کے اس خطے میں پاکستانی جہادی تنظیموں کو از سر نو منظم کرنے کے منصوبے پر نظر رکھے اور اس خطے کو بیان کے الفاظ میں ایک بار پھر شدت پسندوں کا گڑھ بنانے کی سازشوں کو ناکام بنائے</p> <p>انہوں نے متنبع کیا کہ اگر جہادی تنظیموں نے پاکستان کے زیر انتظام کشمیر کو جنگی میدان بنانے کی کوشش کی تو جموں کشمیر لبریشن فرنٹ ان کے خلاف میدان میں نکل آئے گی۔</p> <p>یہ پہلی بار ہے کہ جموں کشمیر لبریشن فرنٹ نے پاکستانی جہادی تنظیموں پر اس طرح کا سخت موقف اختیار کیا ہے۔</p> <p>جے کے ایک ایل ایف کو پاکستان کے زیر انتظام کشمیر میں انتخابات میں حصہ لینے کی اجازت نہیں اس لیے یہ کہنا مشکل ہے کہ اس کو کتنی عوامی حمایت حاصل ہے۔</p> <p>جموں کشمیر لبریشن فرنٹ کے ساتھ دوسری قوم پرست جماعتوں نے جموں کشمیر نینشل لبریشن فرنٹ، کشمیر نینشل پارٹی اور نینشل لائرز فورم نے بھی آئی ایس آئی کے سابق سربراہ حمید گل اور پاکستان کی جہادی تنظیموں پر تنقید کی ہے۔</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/02/100208_jklf_jehadis_hameed_gul.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/02/100208_jklf_jehadis_hameed_gul.shtml</a> </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-114674 Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:18:17 +0000 S.E.Mirza 114674@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>@NNL<br /> Thanks for the update. I had heard of Saudi religious police but now I know they are also named as Amar bil Maroof dept.<br /> Appreciated. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-114638 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:04:48 +0000 NNL 114638@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Mirza Bhai. </p> <p>There is a department rather a Ministry in the Saudi Government called the Department of Vices and Virtues ie. Amr bil Maroof Wa Unhin Munkar. Their job is to enforce Sharia ever they go or are. They are what you call the religious police. If they non Haraam males and females gathering one place they come and investigate and stop useless conversations and ill practices of the public. </p> <p>Their job is also stop immoral extracurricular activities. It can be found in every city of KSA. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-114616 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:30:00 +0000 S.E.Mirza 114616@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>@NNL<br /> What and where is this amar bil maroof department if I may ask and you have no objection. Just for my information. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-114611 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:20:27 +0000 NNL 114611@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>La Ya Akhi </p> <p>Limada ta3kalam mishal hada ? </p> <p>Laiysh ? </p> <p>I asked you if contacted them ? and what advice did they offer you. </p> <p>If you havent been able to contact them then can i be of assistence in contacting them for you? </p> <p>I want to help you and u say i attack you </p> <p>Ajeeb </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-114608 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:10:48 +0000 netengr 114608@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>NNL </p> <p>You keep attacking personally :) .</p> <p>Amrbil maroof Department is busy closing shops during Salah time :) </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-114596 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:39:56 +0000 NNL 114596@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Oh JS sahib is back ? I thought you were gone. </p> <p>Khair. </p> <p>Netu did you call the Amr bil Maroof department. did they give you any advices ? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-114594 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:35:06 +0000 Patriot 114594@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>We may be prone to more suffering untill and unless we are able to judge for ourselves who are at the helm of this sugar coated defamation campaign against Pakistan, its icons military or political in the form of freedom of expression.</p> <p>Keep your **** bal thakery where he belongs. You have an argument than be man enough to defend your thoughts when expressed and that too on your own. </p> <p>I believe shirq, letdoit, salam and change is close have said enough what should be said at all. It would be a waste of my time to discuss any thing further at any level on this thread. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%a8%da%be%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d8%b3%db%92-%db%81%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a7-%d8%b5%d8%b1%d9%81-%d8%af%d8%b4%d9%85%d9%86%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b1%d8%b4%d8%aa%db%81-%db%81%db%92-%d8%ad%d9%85%db%8c%d8%af-%da%af%d9%84#post-114584 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:21:03 +0000 netengr 114584@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>بھارت سے ہمارا صرف دشمنی کا رشتہ ہے<br /> kia aisa bayan kabhi Qaid-e-Azam nay diya ?</p> <p>Akher Hameed Gul type log kis cheez ki authority hain ?</p> <p>India dushman hay ya nahi yeh faisla awan ,Army aur hukomat ko kerna hay ...Hameed gul aur un ki Jihadi Tanzimon ko nahi </p>