http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ PKPolitics Discuss Forum en Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:27:35 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/baluchistan#post-306551 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:07:21 +0000 bsobaid 306551@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>" I think we also need try nationalists who are comitting treason against the country "</p> <p>I dont know how we can do that. Those separatists are the real reprsentatives of our Baloch country men and have a popular support among masses. Persecuting them will most likely further alienate our Baloch country men, causing them to resort back to armed struggle and government will endup calling the same qurbani dayanay walay again. So we are back to where we started.<br /> These sardars should be dealt with in a political manner, although that option also has become extremely hard but is the only viable option. I'd love to see these sardars loosing their grip on Baloch society but at the moment it does not look possible. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/baluchistan#post-306550 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:55:09 +0000 kulla 306550@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>@bsobaid agreed... thats a must, but I think we also need try nationalists who are comitting treason against the country by going to the US and saying that they are natuaral US allies and would do everything for them if Baluchistan got seperated.</p> <p>We also need to change our foreign policy with states which are fueling this seperatist movement.</p> <p>It has to be a 360 degree plan otherwise Khuda Hafiz baluchistan. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/baluchistan#post-306549 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:50:03 +0000 bsobaid 306549@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>FC's illegal occupation of Baloch land must end immediately. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/baluchistan#post-306548 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:47:58 +0000 bsobaid 306548@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>These siasi duffers and khaoo peoo party are once again messing up Balochistan with their naked aggression like they did in E.Pakistan. They must be stopped to avoid the unfortunate inevitable outcome of their mindless adventures.</p> <p>There is only one solution of Baloch land. Bring a stop to military operation. Accept demands of real representatives of Baloch land and give them maximum autonomy short of independence. Give precedence to Gawadar above everything else and induce Baloch jawans in government jobs, specially all armed forces. Try to find ways to end powers of Baloch sardaars gradually and in a political manner. Drag qurbani daynay walay to courts and demand explaination on missing persons cases.</p> <p>Political parties, mostly PPP and to a lesser extent N-League are in best position to do all that. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/baluchistan#post-306540 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:10:24 +0000 hariskhan 306540@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,</p> <p>Who is this "someone" ?</p> <p>Who should it be ?</p> <p>What standards does he/she subscribe to or adhere to ? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/baluchistan#post-306536 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:26:41 +0000 kulla 306536@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>While the Baluchi nationalists are acting like Iraqi's did against Saddam...telling americans that they will give the gawader port to them, stop the gas pipeline and fight against Talebans ...and Americans preparing another plan to seperate Baluchistan from Pakistan..</p> <p>we are busy fighting amongst ourselves. Someone needs to file a treason case in SC against the baluchi nationalists and make politicians and army accountable... and possibly prepare a game plan incase anything erupts in Baluchistan. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%ac%d9%86%d8%b1%d9%84-%d9%85%d8%b4%d8%b1%d9%81-%da%a9%d9%88-%d8%a8%d8%ba%d8%a7%d9%88%d8%aa-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b3%d8%a7%d9%85%d9%86%d8%a7#post-306358 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:14:03 +0000 bsobaid 306358@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>yeh chornay walay tou phirr bhi shareef log hein.</p> <p>asal kareegarr tou woh hein jo abhi takk saath lagay hein aur achi tarah se chona laga kay chorein g ay </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-306356 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:09:42 +0000 Haroon-ur-Rashid 306356@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>i think Aftab Iqbal kaa jang kaa article parh laiyna chaye saab koo :) </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%ac%d9%86%d8%b1%d9%84-%d9%85%d8%b4%d8%b1%d9%81-%da%a9%d9%88-%d8%a8%d8%ba%d8%a7%d9%88%d8%aa-%da%a9%d8%a7-%d8%b3%d8%a7%d9%85%d9%86%d8%a7#post-306353 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:05:27 +0000 Haroon-ur-Rashid 306353@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2012/02/120208_mush_party_disintegrate_ra.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2012/02/120208_mush_party_disintegrate_ra.shtml</a></p> <p>hasraat humain unn gunchoon pay hay joo bin khilay murjha gayee </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-306140 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:03:37 +0000 Anwer Kamal 306140@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Narazi<br /> Ministry say hatao to Narazgi to hoti hay .<br /> Aur sach sab jantay hain<br /> Establishment kay isharon par chalnay walon koLota hi kehtay hain<br /> Aur Lota party aisi hi hoti hay </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-306135 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:06:11 +0000 asif65 306135@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Nai, jab koi aktedar chor kar nazria kee liyee party choree to isee lota kehna khalat hee (Jasee Javid Hashmi, Shah Mehmood, etc) . Han agar koi nazriee ko chor kar iqtidar kee liyee party choree to usee lota kehne khalat nahi ho ga (Jasee Hanif Abasi nee JI ko chor kar Sharif Family League ko join kiya) </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-306105 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:55:31 +0000 Haroon-ur-Rashid 306105@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>meray khiyal main 1 dafa party change karnay koo Lotaizm main shamil nahe karna chaye, kionkay koee b apna mind set change kaar sakta hay, lykin koee isay habit bana lay tou woh LOTAIZM main anaa chayee....jaisay Qasoori, Shah Mahmood, Laghari etc etc..joo kabhi PPP tou kabhi PML tou kabhi Musharaf tou kabhi PTI... </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-306045 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:25:57 +0000 logic 306045@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>we live in west and we used to see imran speaking about things that we really wanted.But we are disappointed due to following major reasons:-</p> <p>The Interest of west in Pakistan is that west want to take out the emotional attachment of islam from people and bring a liberal and secular culture and the reason they support imran khan is b/c they think imran can do this for them.</p> <p>Imran has completely took U turn from his Previous stands and he assured west that he is a liberal person and can bring liberalism and secularism in Pakistan thats why he has to assure west in all his interviews to foreign channels that he is a liberal person.This is just to gain their support.</p> <p>West see his previous life in night clubs ,His relations with jews and marriage with jews,his childeren raising up in jews and his jalsas starting with music concerts,his stand against namoos e Risaalat qanoon,his standing of opposing the govt of punjab action to ban musical concerts in educational institutues in punjab and so many others ..infact all his politics is basically to make happy west and he think he can be prime minister only if these western govt. are happy with him. </p> <p>But we can not let this happen.we dont want another Meer jaffar/Meer sadiq.we accept our politicians have not dilevered the way they should deliver properly but it doesnt mean we give oppertunity to the agenda of yahodees/west to destroy our remaining values and society. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-306003 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:50:07 +0000 sandman 306003@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>What about PMLN lotas?</p> <p><a href="http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pti-pml-n-and-pml-q-lotas" rel="nofollow">http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pti-pml-n-and-pml-q-lotas</a></p> <p>Suprised no PMLN fans have attempted to answers questions on above thread? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/a-villain-in-a-journalists-casing-by-kashmala-khan#post-305987 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:57:13 +0000 SultanAliKhan 305987@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>@Pak Truth.....Do you honestly think people will buy what you have written under the garb of one Kashmala Khan??</p> <p>Despite the idiosyncracies of Hamid Mir and whatever devilish deeds he must have done or is capable of doing, you cannot wash the sins of those who caused deaths of those 4 people in custody.....whether they were innocent or not is not for you or your bosses in the ISI or any other shadowy outfit to decide.....someone has to put a leash on ISI and those who consider themselves to be above law....i was disgusted to read the article which is quite evident that someone somewhere has decided to "do in" Hamid Mir, and you have simply started the ground work toward that goal...STOP IT PLEASE, people are not fools, nor can people like you run amok to have it your way...those days are long gone.....</p> <p>What a lame excuse Kashmala has given in the below lines, pathetic. Only if she puts herself and members of her family in those people's place then only she would realize how it feels to lose one's own life or lives of loved ones...</p> <p>(Quote)"Although despite the best Medicare in CMH and LRH Peshawar, four of them died on different dates in the LRH Peshawar. Hospital officials issued the death certificates and handed over their bodies to the families with full respect according to Islamic rites and despite the fact that each family’s permission was sought for autopsy, all the four families bluntly refused to permit. Hamid Mir, Asma Jehangir, Ali Dayan and others deliberately skipping this part of the story presented the case in a way that any enemy agency would dream about doing." (UnQuote) </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-305988 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:57:13 +0000 pacemaker 305988@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Nawaz Ganjja was a member of Tehreek e Isteqlal left the party to join Gen Zia Martial Law govt &amp; become Finanace Minister of Punjaab, so he is the beggest lota of Pakistan! </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-305983 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:38:14 +0000 pacemaker 305983@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>still better than corrupt Ganjja &amp; his twin brother Madari </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305975 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:26:56 +0000 Adonis 305975@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Nobody denies the foreign threats faced by Pakistan. But the point is that who decides whether the persons who have been killed were terrorists or innocent Pakistanis?</p> <p>They were not caught while fighting with the army. They were picked up from their homes right in front of their parents and children. Then they were accused of terrorism and produced before the courts. The courts looked at the evidence and found it to be fake. When these people were declared innocent by the courts and released, they were kidnapped again by the military and murdered.</p> <p>Again, military can not be allowed to be judge, jury and executioner. Everyone, including army has to accept the decisions of judiciary.</p> <p>How can we accuse judges of being afraid of terrorists? Given the history of its ineptitude, it is much more likely that the military made a mistake and caught wrong people and in order to justify its acts, it manufactured fake evidence.</p> <p>And while politicians can be blamed for many aspects of fall of Dhaka, ultimately, it was a military defeat, as were Siachen, Kargil and Abbottabad. The most humiliating thing is that our army has been given a thorough beating by indians(whom we always make fun of for being a nation of cowards) time and again. This shows that there is something seriously wrong with our army and in the interest of Pakistan, we have to rectify this fault in order to save ourselves from future military humiliations. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305974 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:00:30 +0000 Pak Truth 305974@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>A judge who is affraid of terrorist , how can he provide justice. Tell me is it justified to kill Pakistanies through sucide.<br /> Over 35000perosn of Pakistan Army and intelligence agencies have scarified their lives for the country.<br /> over 35000 civilians have been killed by these such type of terrorists /detainees .<br /> Judges failed to provide the justice of over 50 persons who have been killed by these terrorists.<br /> I dnt favour the role of army in the civil but do support their cause against Indian and American masters. Anti state elements do not leave any chance of defaming Pak Army.<br /> Politicians should be strong and clean enough to perform for the nation. CJ should ask his judges that why they fail to provide justice to the innocent victims<br /> Fighitng of war is not a cricket match or bed of roses. Its the motivation which can make u stand infront of enemy . The politicans take the decsions as like Nawaz Shreif and Bhtoo took after and before Kargil War and Dhaka fall. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-305971 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:47:27 +0000 Sweettruth 305971@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>What a team! it is the team of the century.</p> <p>PTI Inqilab aaway hi aaway... </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305967 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:37:28 +0000 Adonis 305967@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Courts are trying to provide justice. Unfortunately, military has taken justice in its own hands. It is not the job of army to decide who is guilty or innocent. Its job is to secure our borders in which it has miserably failed time and again.</p> <p>Fall of Dhaka, Siachen, Kargil, attack on Abbotabad on May 2, 2010, these were all military's defeats. </p> <p>But where our army has succeeded is in conquering Islamabad and toppling civilian governments again and again. Now it has started killing Pakistanis by accusing them of terrorism. </p> <p>In case of these eleven persons kidnapped by army, lets not forget that this so called "evidence" which is now being sent to newspaper offices has already been produced in the court and the court has decided that it is fake evidence and these people are totally innocent. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305965 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:30:57 +0000 Pak Truth 305965@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>I just see wts all is going on in my country where Indian snakes are roaming arround. Shaking for national interests and Pakistan is ok. Being Pakistani citizen , we have to elminate all those who kill innocent people for the money . Court should provide the justice to those who have been killed by these ruthless fool.<br /> <a href="http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11445981/video/89986845-victim-of-detainees-terrorism-needs-justice" rel="nofollow">http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11445981/video/89986845-victim-of-detainees-terrorism-needs-justice</a> </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305963 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:23:10 +0000 junaid 305963@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>you go and ask your fauji brigade why are they shaking hands with shumali itehaad and karzai's by product indian consulates. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305962 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:20:52 +0000 junaid 305962@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>for ur kind info. those were arrested in charge of fake planing/attacking busharaf mubarukh.<br /> please see the pictures of dead bodies of baloch awam from at balochistan. they were all woman and children killed by the bhaikari granted fighter aircrafts.</p> <p>abh musharaf bhagora wapas kiyon nahi ata? </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305961 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:18:40 +0000 Pak Truth 305961@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Tell me what are the tsks of 14 detachments of Indian Consulates all aloong Afghan border. Judges should come out to punish the terrorists and their supporters. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305959 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:15:57 +0000 Pak Truth 305959@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>inn four terrorists killed over 50 Pakistani in one day. RAW &amp; CIA is paying to Baloch lords for killing of Pakistani </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305958 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:15:13 +0000 junaid 305958@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>aap ki rungh rooth fauj unhai zinda choree gi tau judges kuch karain ga na.<br /> judges aur adiliya tau khud sold out fauj bane baithee hai.</p> <p>please let us see the indian proofs full stop </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305957 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:12:48 +0000 Pak Truth 305957@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>yeah wo loog hain jo Pakistani citizens ko Indian masters ka kehna ka upooor Pakistan main loogoon ko nishana bunata thaya. No softness in my mind for such type of persons who kill innocent people on the direction of their masters. Theri act of carrying out blasts inside Pakistan are sufficient proof. Unfortunatly, Our judges failed to punish them </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305956 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:09:04 +0000 junaid 305956@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>let us see the indian proofs now?</p> <p>kubh tak zulm zadda encounters hongay?</p> <p>aur kitnay missing pakistani citizens musharaf ko balli charhain gain? abh tau imdad bhi rukh gaye bhikarion ki.<br /> i think we haven't forgotten how the generals threaten supreme court for the missing persons case. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305955 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:06:10 +0000 Pak Truth 305955@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Lakin un loogoon ko sharm bilkul nehi hatti ha jo Indian hands main sell hona passand kerta hain </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/a-villain-in-a-journalists-casing-by-kashmala-khan#post-305954 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:31:09 +0000 Pak Truth 305954@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>There is a very famous saying that ‘a good dog deserves a good bone’ but quite often one comes across such dogs that aren’t good but they manage a milieu where one doesn’t have a choice other than taking them as good dogs, hence they ensure a good bone or bounty. The dogs, one comes across, in every walk of life. There was a ‘Holy Cows’ time once. Long gone those cows and now is the time of a ‘Bull’ and that bull is none other than Pakistani Media, currently ruining everything in the ‘China Shop’ and when the bull ruins a china shop, the dogs certainly cash their value and importance and insist upon a good piece of a bone to scare the bull away.<br /> <a href="http://pressmediapk.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://pressmediapk.blogspot.com/</a> </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-305895 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:47:05 +0000 pakstar 305895@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p><img src="http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/380084_307529489280771_145569565476765_978976_1398769477_n.jpg" /> </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-305874 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:06:06 +0000 Anwer Kamal 305874@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p><img src="http://photos.jang.com.pk/tasveer_images/2011-12-28/large/7_34199.JPG" /> </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/team-pti#post-305871 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:41:19 +0000 Haroon-ur-Rashid 305871@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>sharam tum koo magar atee nahee...it is not for Imran Khan, it is for those who join him! </p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyRS3VNGWYI&amp;feature=share" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyRS3VNGWYI&amp;feature=share</a> </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/how-to-start-the-perfect-thread#post-305830 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:12:56 +0000 syed masood haider 305830@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>انہی مسائل کے حل کے لیے ھم نے تنظیم بنائ ھے۔الحمدوللہ 820 ممبر بن چکے ھیں۔۔1000 کے قریب رابطے ھیں ابھی با قائدہ ارگنائیز نہی ھوسکے کہ کام بانٹ لیے جائیں۔۔سارا لوڈ اکیلے کے سر پر ھے اس لیے یاد رکھنا مشکل ھو جاتا ھے ۔۔ آپ کے لیے میں نے ائمان داری سے کوشش کی لیکن جاپان نے ویزا بہت مشکل کیا ھوا ھے۔۔ اور جاپان کے ساتھ ھمارے ملک کا کوئ ورکنگ اگریمنٹ بھی نہی ھے۔۔۔اسی لیے کوشش ھے کہ لوگوں کو سمجھا ئیں کہ ان حرامی لیڈروں کے چکر سے نکلیں۔اور غریب لوگ اپنے اندر سے اپنے جیسی قیادت نکالیں۔۔ تاکہ ملک کے آنے والے نوجوان ملک سے بھگنے کی بجاۓ اس ملک میں اپنا رزق تلاش کریں اور اس بات پر فخر کریں کہ وہ پاکستان میں پیدا ھوۓ۔۔۔ایسا ماحول بنایا جاۓ کہ ھم جیسے بھگوڑے بھی اپنے وطن واپس آسکیں۔۔پاکستان کی الیٹ کلاس نے تو بہت مایوس کر دیا ھے ھمارے ملک کی الیٹ کلاس اصل میں ڈکیت کلاس ھے ترقی یافتہ ملک الیٹ کلاس اس کو کہتے ھیں جو ملک کے سب سے ذیادہ پڑھے لکھے اور عوام کے سب سے ذیادہ کام آنے والے جو اپنی ذات کا نقصان کرکے دوسروں کا فائدہ کرنے والے ھو تے ھیں۔۔۔ مگر ھمارے ھاں جو سب سے بڑا ڈکیت جس کو عدالت بھی پکڑنے کی جرات نہ کرے۔۔جو سرے عام عوام کے خزانوں کو لوٹے اور کسی پوچھنے کی جرات نہ ھو ان الیٹوں کو پاکستان کی سیاست سے ڈلیٹ کر دو دیکھو یہ ملک دنیا کا سب سے امیر ملک ھو گا اور یہ جاپانی جو ھمیں ویزا نہی دیتے ھمارے ملک کا ویزا لینے لائن میں لگیں گے </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305654 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:05:29 +0000 junaid 305654@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>sharam na pak fauj ko magar atee nahi. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305585 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:10:41 +0000 Sharif Aadmi 305585@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>'<br /> Overlooking which, the media is still crying for the four dead detainees who were party to this hideous crime which costed thousands of innocent lives. I<br /> '</p> <p>Proved in which court of law ???? Any proofs.</p> <p>If on the basis of allegations such atrocities are accepted than next would be you and mine exposed to such atrocities. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/victims-of-detainees-terrorism-need-justice-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-305558 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 08:14:33 +0000 Pak Truth 305558@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Media is an instrument of war and peace, which is being exercised by every nations to mould the situations for the purpose of acquiring desired results through perception management,t, assist in revisiting and defining foreign policy, breaking status quo, making/changing the opinion of masses and protecting national and international interests. In regard to Pakistani media, an agony to this aspect is that some of our top liner's electronic and print media's instruments are showing reckless attitude while dealing with the important and sensitive issues of Pakistan.<br /> Taking the case of four dead detainees, regretfully, the media just needs an issue to vilify the armed and security forces of Pakistan. The annual death toll from terrorist attacks has risen from 164 in 2003 to 3318 in 2009, with over a total of 35,000 Pakistanis killed as of 2010 (5000 of which are law enforcement personnel while rests are the innocent civilians). Whereas, the direct and indirect economic costs of terrorism from 2000-2010 sum up to a total of $68 billion. Overlooking which, the media is still crying for the four dead detainees who were party to this hideous crime which costed thousands of innocent lives. It is about time that media men revisit their lost sense of patriotism and call a spade a spade.<br /> The detainees were involved in brutalities on Hamza camp, Kamra Base and GHQ. According to the media reports detainees were taken away from Adayala Jail by their own masters, disguised as intelligence persons, to FATA. After relentless efforts they were again tracked and caught from FATA/KPK by the intelligence agencies. These detainees were not convicted by Anti-Terrorist Courts due to lack of evidences, as most of the witnesses were afraid to appear before the court. It is also mentionable here that heirs of detainees used to threaten the judges of the court and superintendent and staff of the jail. This is a common culture that the key witness is always given death threats by perpetrators of these terrorists. The question arising in the mind of every sensible person is that how who will give the justice to the heirs of over 50 innocent individuals who have been victims of ferocity of RA Bazar, Hamza Camp, GHQ, and Kamra Base episode. If the respectable petitioners, media's propagators and honorable apex Court's Judges' families would have suffered what they would have done? Would they have gone ahead with same zest? If media is united for one Wali Babar, just imagine how many "Wali Babars" have died in these suicide attacks. Who is to answer the widow of newly wed Mustansar? Who is to answer orphans of Ajmal? Who is to fill the gap of Saima's son? A question for all humans!<br /> <a href="http://www.zameer36.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=201" rel="nofollow">http://www.zameer36.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=201</a> </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pay-bribes-to-health-department-and-feed-any-garbage-to-public#post-305321 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:01:25 +0000 M.AKRAM 305321@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>At present ministry of health in Sindh specially Drug Testing Laboratory are being handled by sister of Mr.Asif Ali Zardari, Uzra Peechu, her son Shahid Peechu who is also nephew of Zardrai has been appointed as a Deputy Drug controller, in Sindh all competent drug Inspectors such as Najmus Saqib, Muhammad Amir,and Aslam Jan Khattak have been transfered on the first day of this corrupt government and replaced by Zardari family cronies like Bouzdar,Suresh Kumar,Tanveer Alam, these are recoganized corrupted officers and have been penalized by court of laws.Their job is just collection of bribes and money from Pharmaceuticals.That is the reason that Pharmaceutical Industry is now very relaxed in Karachi,because they just pay money and no one ask any thing about Good manufacturing practices or safety of drugs being manufactured by them, monthlies of Drug Testing Laboratories and Drug Inspectors are fixed.In such scenario one can only expect and forcast disaster and nothing else. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pay-bribes-to-health-department-and-feed-any-garbage-to-public#post-305070 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:58:06 +0000 Hussain Farooqui 305070@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>The officials appointed by the health department are paid salaries and facilities from the public money. They are nothing more than mere burdens on the public. They move out regularly on official visits and just do the job of collecting bribes from one place to another. </p> <p>The scam of fake medicines in Punjab is not any new story in our society. Just that this scam has come to surface.</p> <p>I wonder if there is any govt. existent here to take care of the poor and helpless public. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/no-threads-on-serious-issue-discussion-on-junk-politicians-only#post-304394 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:53:24 +0000 Hussain Farooqui 304394@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>The country is speedily headed towards very catastrophic conditions. Unless thoughts are developed on serious issues, no driving force can come into action for saving our beloved country. Futile discussions on junk politicians can only keep us away from serious thoughts. There is no positive output of discussions on politicians. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/no-threads-on-serious-issue-discussion-on-junk-politicians-only#post-304345 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:04:16 +0000 asif65 304345@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Even they put their poison in this thread. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/no-threads-on-serious-issue-discussion-on-junk-politicians-only#post-304344 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:00:57 +0000 TanoliMns 304344@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>root cause of all these problems are two big parties PPP and PML N. You will have to live with reality. Pakistan has never been in such terrible conditions before. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/no-threads-on-serious-issue-discussion-on-junk-politicians-only#post-304338 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:48:24 +0000 asif65 304338@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>I agree there are several trivial threads and the level of discourse has really degenerated.</p> <p>This was bound to happen when Sharif-Family-/Noora-League chamchas were ordered to target discussion forum and start using the same abusive language that is the hallmark of their party.</p> <p>When one sides stoops so low, then tempers flare naturally and other side also starts responding in kind.</p> <p>.... </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/no-threads-on-serious-issue-discussion-on-junk-politicians-only#post-304330 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:31:55 +0000 Adonis 304330@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>I agree there are several trivial threads and the level of discourse has really degenerated.</p> <p>This was bound to happen when Insaf.pk moderators and contributors were ordered to target pkpolitics discussion forum and start using the same abusive language that is the hallmark of their party.</p> <p>When one sides stoops so low, then tempers flare naturally and other side also starts responding in kind.</p> <p>There were political discussions on this forum before this infestation but as the contributors were more mature and much more knowledgeable, we had a much better and informative debate. But I guess we would not revert to the same level of mutual respect and honest debate till after elections, when all the "tsunami rubble" will lose interest in politics and go back to playing online games.</p> <p>Till then, it will be a fish market. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/no-threads-on-serious-issue-discussion-on-junk-politicians-only#post-304325 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:17:54 +0000 junaid 304325@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>bachi kuchi kasar kamzor/majboor/ ya phir adliya ki deal nai poori kardi hai. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/no-threads-on-serious-issue-discussion-on-junk-politicians-only#post-304323 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:16:35 +0000 oblivion 304323@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>it's just beginning of end. The end is far ahead. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/no-threads-on-serious-issue-discussion-on-junk-politicians-only#post-304322 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:08:44 +0000 Hussain Farooqui 304322@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Our country has reached very crucial conditions. Our economy is in shatters. Our industrial structure is collapsing due to shortage of electricity and gas. Lawlessness is totally out of control. Terrorism is at peak. The national institutions are headed towards catastrophic conditions . Similarly, there are countless problems of very serious nature which we are facing presently. </p> <p>No threads on this forum addressing the serious national issues are seen. The things which are apparently and excessively seen on this forum are discussions on junk politicians. </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/good-governance-of-pmln-exposed#post-303324 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:53:34 +0000 bsobaid 303324@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>This is probably the worse inhuman scandal.</p> <p>This must be tried in anti-terrorist court.</p> <p>This is an act of terrorism and nothing else. This is the most inhuman crime one can think of.</p> <p><a href="http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/fake-medicines-in-punjab#post-303020" rel="nofollow">http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/fake-medicines-in-punjab#post-303020</a> </p> http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/good-governance-of-pmln-exposed#post-303323 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:30:33 +0000 Allama Jahil 303323@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <p>Auditor General of Pakistan has exposed a bigger health scandal involving Punjab's hospital. </p> <p>The inquiry conducted in the context of deaths due to wrong medication given by the Punjab Institute of Cardiology. The number of deaths due to PIC medicines has crossed an alarming 102 mark, as two more people lost lives on Thursday.</p> <p>The AGP report says that Punjab procured medicines worth over Rs 130 million from a single company through a single tender. Not just that, hospitals tested medicines on patients in order to check their efficacy.</p> <p>According to the report, untested medicines were given to patients in Dental Hospital and Jinnah Hospital Lahore, while Sheikh Zayed Hospital Multan administered untested eye drops and lenses to patients which caused them infection.</p> <p>Dr Javed Akram, Principal Allama Iqbal Medical College, Lahore, who is heading the inquiry team dealing with the PIC scam, said that certain companies have monopolies while certain medicines are administered in Pakistan because lab tests are not available or conducted.</p> <p>Dr Javed said he should have been given a copy of the AGP report for him to be able to given a proper judgment. </p> <p><a href="http://dunyanews.tv/index.php?key=Q2F0SUQ9MiNOaWQ9NjIzNTE=" rel="nofollow">http://dunyanews.tv/index.php?key=Q2F0SUQ9MiNOaWQ9NjIzNTE=</a></p> <p>------------------------------------------------------------</p> <p><strong><br /> Closed by Moderator</p> <p>Similar topic already exists.Continue there</p> <p><a href="http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/fake-medicines-in-punjab"><strong>Fake medicines in Punjab<br /> </strong></a><br /> </strong> </p>