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Discuss » Tag: nawaz - Recent Topics http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ PKPolitics Discuss Forum en Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:43:11 +0000 Pakistani84 on "Tsunami in Bhalwal, Sargodha" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/tsunami-in-bhulwal-sargodha#post-302113 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:57:57 +0000 Pakistani84 302113@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Some N-leaguers were really missing Imran Khan's thrashing of their party, so here it is again. ;) ========== <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yW0naWC7JU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yW0naWC7JU</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQXrQ7XYYAA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQXrQ7XYYAA</a> <img src="http://dunyanews.tv/news/2012/January/01-22-12/news_big_images/61670_49510210.jpg" /> Old parties' days gone, change must: Imran Imran Khan said that PTI's tsunami of change would facilitate small farmers of Pakistan. Addressing a public gathering at Bhalwal, he said that downtrodden were being exploited in the name of rules and regulations. He said that farmers were in dire need of justice as their 30% production was being looted by brokers sitting in the assemblies. Comparing Indian Punjab with Pakistani Punjab, he said that the PTI was the party which would facilitate the farmers and would provide them every kind of facilities to small farmers. He said that there is no rule of law. Peoples’ lives and property was at the mercy of looters and plunderers. He said gone were the days of old political parties and now the PTI would solve all the problems on priority basis. Referring to NRO case, he said that President has deposited Rs 5 billions in Swiss banks after looting from national economy. He said that socio economic set up has been ruined as there is tremendous loadshedding of gas and power. salaudin on ""mari nazar men sadar sahab ko immunity hasil ha", Nawaz Sharif" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/sadar-ko-istasna-hasil-ha-nawaz-sharif#post-299766 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:46:17 +0000 salaudin 299766@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ First couple of minutes. Nawaz ha claimed that Zardari has the immunity so what is Nawaz's stance on it ? What was the "Go Zardari Go" by Nawaz for ? It would be great if any PML (N) supporter could explain this ? < <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l0poCfhhQ4&feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l0poCfhhQ4&feature=player_embedded</a> > Qaiser Nadeem on "PMLN and PPP on the verge of a deal behind closed doors" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pmln-and-ppp-on-the-verge-of-a-deal-behind-closed-doors#post-298536 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:31:56 +0000 Qaiser Nadeem 298536@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <blockquote>Democratic transition: Sparring rivals converge behind closed doors For all their barbed exchanges in public, the country’s two largest parties have met two-thirds of the way in backdoor negotiations over the democratic transition process, well-placed sources told The Express Tribune. The ruling Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and the opposition Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) have agreed to four out of their six-point negotiation agenda comprising discussions over Senate elections, snap polls and their modalities, interim set-up,accountability bill, a strong and independent poll supervisory body and the issue of new provinces. Both parties have agreed to continue their negotiations over the remaining items, sources said, adding that President Asif Ali Zardari and PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif are closely monitoring the negotiations process, ongoing for the last two weeks. Close and trustworthy associates of both leaders are conducting the negotiations – Senator Pervez Rashid on Nawaz’s behalf and Malik Riaz, the real-estate tycoon, on behalf of the president. Sources said both Rashid and Riaz first met two weeks ago and discussed the agenda. Both report to their leaders promptly and are aided by a few men who provide the technical support for negotiations, sources added. The two parties have converged on four points – early elections after the budget, Senate elections, accountability bill, and an independent poll commission. The modalities of general elections and the interim set-up will be discussed by a different set of negotiators, sources said, adding that the recent meeting between Barrister Aitzaz Ahsan and Senator Ishaq Dar was a part of the negotiations. Dar and Ahsan reportedly discussed details of the interim setup and modalities of forthcoming general elections. The last point, new provinces, will be discussed by the top leaders – Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani, and Leader of the Opposition in National Assembly Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan. Compromises Sources further said that both parties have decided to leave judicial issues to the courts. The PML-N would wait for the verdicts, but has decided to not resign from the assemblies – national, or Punjab. The PML-N has also reportedly suspended its movement against the president. Nawaz took stern notice of Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif’s statements against President Zardari, and has asked him to refrain until negotiations are in progress, sources in the party told The Express Tribune. In return though, sources say, the PML-N has informed PPP it would hold a public gathering in Multan in a month’s time to improve its party graph. The PML-N lost its strength in Multan city after the resignation of former stalwart Javed Hashmi. Confirmations The negotiation process was confirmed by senior federal minister and Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) chief Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi while talking to The Express Tribune. He added, however, that his party would step in to incorporate their suggestions once the dialogue matures. If the PML-N resigns from the Punjab Assembly, Elahi said they would form a government with the PPP in the province and have informed the PML-N thus. The PML-N cannot achieve much without negotiations with the PPP, he added. The negotiations were also confirmed by PPP’s former finance minister in the Punjab cabinet Chaudhry Tanveer Ashraf Kaira. He said that Dar and Ahsan discussed the interim set-up during their negotiation. PML-N’s Information Secretary Senator Mushahiddullah Khan, however, said he has no information about any ongoing negotiations. He added, however, that the government and opposition discussing the modalities of the upcoming general elections, and the interim setup, was the norm. Malik Riaz and Senator Rashid could not be reached for comments, though. Published in The Express Tribune, January 9th, 2012. <a href="http://tribune.com.pk/story/318737/democratic-transition-sparring-rivals-converge-behind-closed-doors/" rel="nofollow">http://tribune.com.pk/story/318737/democratic-transition-sparring-rivals-converge-behind-closed-doors/</a> </blockquote> This is hilarious especially considering those buffoons who spend day and night on various forums cursing PPP while their leader is busy pandering to the same PPP. :) S.E.Mirza on "PPP to participate in PTI Jalsa in Lahore" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/ppp-to-participate-in-pti-jalsa-in-lahore#post-273447 Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:40:05 +0000 S.E.Mirza 273447@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Post you comments on: <a href="http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/jalsa-menar-e-pakistan" rel="nofollow">http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/jalsa-menar-e-pakistan</a> . I am not going to close this thread as for now but you on your part should use 'search' to avoid duplicate thread topics. sochopakistani on "Stop worshiping start questioning our "leaders"" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/stop-worshiping-start-questioning-our-leaders#post-266115 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 16:05:29 +0000 sochopakistani 266115@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Are we ready to stop worshiping and start questioning our beloved leaders about: 1)Their visions 2)Their character 3)Their attitude 4)Their Wealth 5)Their Education 6)Their Values 7)Their program for Pakistan 8)Their foreign policy etc etc etc Or remain as failed,desperate,divided,haters and psycho... mangotango on "Burn Notice - Rahman Malik" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/burn-notice-rahman-malik#post-259654 Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:42:27 +0000 mangotango 259654@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Zardari, intelligently, burned RM after using him ans at the same time putting MQM in the line of fire. All of the them be it Zardari, Mirza, Altaf, IK, Nawaz, Wali or whatever, are killers, chathay batthays and hopeless. nota on "Future News: Nawaz Gets A Heart Transplant" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/future-news-nawaz-gets-a-heart-transplant#post-221285 Sun, 20 Mar 2011 04:59:48 +0000 nota 221285@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Refusing to accept that their HeartGate scam stands fully exposed, PML-N is still trying its best to coverup the obvious, with stories getting wilder and wilder to protect the role of Ganju Bros in letting Davis escape. It has progressed from "hospitalization was part of a regularly scheduled check up" to "some heaviness in his (chest)" to "admitted to the hospital with chest pain" Similarly, the lies about what got done to him got wilder too: "a regularly scheduled check up" to "a simple and routine heart procedure " to "a radiofrequency ablation procedure operation was held" to "scheduled operation was for angiography...Two stents were inserted during the surgery" to a full-blown "heart-surgery" to the over-dramatic: <blockquote>"something went horribly wrong..due to a serious complication that occurred..the operation became too complicated and Nawaz Sharif’s condition at one point became more than critical..bleeding looked to be out of control but then the doctors took charge of the situation [****? Who was in charge up to then? The janitors?]...His doctors got very worried and only then London’s top surgeons were summoned by the hospital to perform an emergency surgery to address and fix the problem. His second surgery went long into the night.... </blockquote> But the most pathetic attempt to hide his role in the Davis affair was this one: <blockquote>It has been learnt that Sharif is still not fully aware of the recent political developments in Pakistan, mainly the Raymond Davis case and the furore surrounding the outcome of this case.</blockquote> Now that is some selective amnesia.... BTW: Here is another hilarious bit from the <a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=4696&Cat=13&dt=3/18/2011">same article</a>: <blockquote>Nawaz Sharif is still in a half-conscious state due to the heavy dosage of medicine given to him since Monday </blockquote> Which is soon followed by: <blockquote>Sharif has been kept in deep sleep in the intensive care unit. </blockquote> How the fvck can one be "half conscious" and yet in "deep sleep"? Well here is the latest that makes me believe there are a lot more lies to come: <a href="http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/20/nawaz-sharif-underwent-series-of-heart-procedures.html">Nawaz Sharif ‘underwent series of heart procedures’</a> (and yet "Mr Sharif is now recovering well and ‘is expected to be shifted to his home in the next couple of days‘,” said Senator Pervez Rashid...) :) runaway on "Nawaz Sharif found out about OBL today." http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/nawaz-sharif-found-out-about-obl-today#post-237498 Mon, 09 May 2011 13:14:28 +0000 runaway 237498@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ After quietly coming to Pakistan, fianlly Nawaz Sharif issued a mild statement. He can't do anything about the OBL operation. What he can do is show the 'heart bypass' scar on his chart and put the heart surgery conspiracy to rest :) KHAN_Sahib on "Attention Moderators!!!" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/attention-moderators-2#post-228538 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:16:31 +0000 KHAN_Sahib 228538@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Over times and times again, PKPolitics have been blamed to be a mouth of nawaz shareef which was denied by the admins and moderators. Until now, I always thought that it was not the case but now I am having my doubts too. On the following thread: <a href="http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/response-to-pti-on-ns-ghq-myth" rel="nofollow">http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/response-to-pti-on-ns-ghq-myth</a> not only my posting were deleted for no reason but MR. Rasheed's own blabbering were left. What is that? Why the moderators and admin's are becoming a party to a discussion? No one is denying the rite to post their views but deleting my posting without any reason is not a fair moderation. Please DONOT tell me that my posted pictures were doing anything to the format of the page as there hundreds of pictures posted on this site which does that but you have never moderated those pages. I have on various occasion used thr abuse button on various threads but till this day none of those racist comments were deleted but I am surprised that you took action against my postings which had nawaz's pictures? I want an explanation and apology from the admins otherwise like others who have left, I have no hesitation to leave either. Freedom of speech was too good to be true for a Pakistani website and perhaps it's time for me to wake up. nota on "Stunts Galore: First Nawaz, Now Kiyani, Next Judiciary?" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/stunts-galore-first-nawaz-now-kiyani-next-judiciary#post-221332 Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:21:16 +0000 nota 221332@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Desperation is setting in since major bvtts have all been exposed in the Davis Affarir. First, PML-N keeps coming up with <a href="http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/future-news-nawaz-gets-a-heart-transplant">"newer and better" stories about Nawaz's heart</a>... Now Kiyani -- after a "strong protest" -- wants us to believe <a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Pak-air-force-on-alert-after-US-drone-hits/articleshow/7746400.cms">he is ready to shoot down drones</a>. Honest! :) (The the fool realize no one will buy it unless 1) A drone IS shot down, and 2) drone strikes stop -- both VERY unlikely). (That <a href="http://thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=4731&Cat=13&dt=3/19/2011">‘Army trying to cover up bad deal on Davis’</a>, is beyond doubt) What's next? CJ SC taking suo moto on the Davis affair? (I am betting on it to prove they too were involved. <a href="http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/18/cj-lhc-refuses-to-hear-petition-challenging-davis%E2%80%99-release.html">LHC CJ has already confessed, sort of</a>). And Gilani's defence of the courts takes away any doubt: <a href="http://thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=4735&Cat=13&dt=3/19/2011">PM defends court on Davis release</a> BTW: Gilani too in his wisdom has admitted they were all involved: <a href="http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/19/wrong-to-blame-any-one-institution-for-davis-deal-gilani.html">Wrong to blame any one institution for Davis deal: Gilani</a> :) P.S. As to what is the new official policy, a hint can be gleaned from this headline: <a href="http://thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=4737&Cat=13&dt=3/19/2011">Three foreigners detained, released</a> oneUp on "Tribute to Mohib -e- Watan Rulers" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/tribute-to-mohib-e-watan-rulers#post-221507 Sun, 20 Mar 2011 23:42:05 +0000 oneUp 221507@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoDtuyAB9jI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoDtuyAB9jI</a> Fazooli on "Nawaz vows to make Pakistan economic power" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/nawaz-vows-to-make-pakistan-economic-power#post-201995 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 18:06:01 +0000 Fazooli 201995@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <a href="http://www.dawn.com/2010/11/29/nawaz-vows-to-make-pakistan-economic-power.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dawn.com/2010/11/29/nawaz-vows-to-make-pakistan-economic-power.html</a> What are your comments? Can NS make Pakistan an economics power: *By paying 5000Rs in tax (I have heard that his tax has increased by considerable amount after constant criticism by IK). *By starting schemes as "Qazr Utaro" nota on "Musharraf says "Will repeat Lal Masjid, Killing Bugti"" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/musharraf-says-will-repeat-lal-masjid-killing-bugti#post-190813 Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:17:47 +0000 nota 190813@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ And adds <a href="http://public.dawn.com/2010/11/08/nawaz-will-never-regain-power-says-musharraf.html">Nawaz will never regain power, says Musharraf</a> <blockquote>Former president Pervez Musharraf has severely criticised PML-N leader Nawaz Sharif and said he (Nawaz) will never be able to regain power and take him to court. The retired general who had deposed Mr Sharif in October 1999 told a gathering of Pakistanis on Saturday night that “Nawaz knows that neither will he regain power nor will he be able to try me in a court of law. Therefore, he takes resort to blowing this trumpet time and again.” Gen (retd) Musharraf said he did not regret the action taken against Baloch leader Nawab Akbar Bugti and against Lal Mosque and stressed he would not apologise for the actions, adding he would do it all over again if forced by the situation. Continuing his attacks on Mr Sharif, he said that while he raised the slogan of ‘Jaag Punjabi Jaag’ to secure votes in Punjab, he had remained silent over the killing of Punjabis in Balochistan. Gen (retd) Musharraf accused Mr Sharif of giving refuge in Lahore to Talal Bugti whom he termed ‘lawbreaker’. Supporters of PML-N gathered outside the hall raised slogans against Musharraf.</blockquote> Jaatt on "Nawaz sharif' family pays 490 million tax annually" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/nawaz-sharif-family-pays-490-million-tax-annually#post-182350 Sun, 03 Oct 2010 06:17:27 +0000 Jaatt 182350@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ its his family who pay the tax coz all his property is owned by them n not in his own name ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Muslim League-N (PML-N) chief Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif has said the government has gradually lost all the available options. In an interview with a private television channel, he said no option was left for the government, instead it had to improve itself. He said the President Zardari should beg pardon from both Allah and the nation. He stated the amalgamation of all the Leagues was being carried out under devilish intent. To a query regarding 18th amendment, he said it was not necessary to blindly support judiciary or government. He further said that he did not know that Punjab Government was functioning on a stay order. The PML-N chief said this was mere propaganda that he was evading tax adding his family had paid tax of Rs 490 million during Year 2008-09 while a total of Rs 6.67 billion was paid as tax during the last 8 years. He said his doors were open for the PM and the President to hold talks but it was the time for the government to take solid steps. Meanwhile, the US envoy to Pakistan N.W. Patterson called on Nawaz Sharif. During the course of meeting, Nawaz Sharif strongly condemned the NATO attacks inside Pakistan and demanded that the US should review its policies keeping in view the sacrifices rendered by Pakistan in the war against terrorism. He warned that the violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty would not be tolerated. Nawaz maintained that anti-Americanism was fueling in Pakistan due to drone attacks. He thanked the US for its rescue and relief efforts for the flood affected people of Pakistan. The US Envoy reiterated her country’s commitment to rehabilitate the recent deluge-stricken people of the country.-SANA source: <a href="http://www.pak-times.com/2010/10/02/govt-left-with-no-option-nawaz/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pak-times.com/2010/10/02/govt-left-with-no-option-nawaz/</a> nota on "Count us out, Nawaz tells Gilani" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/count-us-out-nawaz-tells-gilani#post-179094 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:58:56 +0000 nota 179094@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <a href="http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/local/lahore/count-us-out%2C-nawaz-tells-gilani-290" rel="nofollow">http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/local/lahore/count-us-out%2C-nawaz-tells-gilani-290</a> LAHORE: A clear-cut ‘no-cooperation’ message by ally and the arch rival Nawaz Sharif has reportedly panicked Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, making him publicly talk of ‘conspiracies’ being hatched against his government. The PML-N chief has reportedly told the prime minister unequivocally that in future he (PM) should not expect any co-operation from his party. A source informed Dawn on Tuesday that Nawaz Sharif’s message had panicked the prime minister as it was indicative of some ‘serious move’ to send his government packing. ... Anwer Kamal on "Can N$ be P.M of AJK?" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/can-n-be-pm-of-ajk#post-166146 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:50:53 +0000 Anwer Kamal 166146@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ After failing in Pakistan and recent defeat in Punjab Nawaz sharif decided to establish his party in Azad Jammun & Kashmir. Can he become a PM there ? See a report. Nawaz announces to organize PML-N in AJK PML-N leader Nawaz Sharif, announcing the launch of the party in Azad Jammu and Kashmir, has directed Raja Faroof Haider to organize the party. He granted this approval at a meeting with the former AJK PM Raja Farooq Haider at Raiwand Farm on Tuesday. Raja Farooq apprised the PML-N chief of no-trust motion tabled by opposition parties led by Muslim Conference chief Sardar Atiq. Nawaz said he had already decided to activate N-league in AJK. However, he deferred his decision due to reconciliation with Sardar Qayum and Sardar Atiq. Nawaz Sharif said that PML-N is party of all four provinces and it should be organized in AJK as early as possible. Raja Farooq said that political parties of AJK have differences due to which there is no political stability. Dunya Tv (Just for fun, Hope you enjoyed) nota on "Rauf Klasra's Damning Accusations Against PML-N (PA Resolution)" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/rauf-klasras-damning-accusations-against-pml-n-pa-resolution#post-162632 Mon, 12 Jul 2010 06:13:26 +0000 nota 162632@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=29984">Here is an very interesting one by Rauf Klasra</a> on the PA resolution against the media. Here are his damning accusations: 1: It was part of "a phase-wise plan" to crackdown on the media 2: The resolution as passed was edited by Shahbaz Sharif himself. 3. Shahbaz Sharif himself chose Sanullah Mastikhel to present the resolution in the PA 4: Two foreign countries were also taken into confidence on the crackdown plan against the media (Why? And why doesn't he name them??) 5: Even harsher measures against the media were in the offing 6: Speaker Punjab Assembly had made a secret telephone call to a top gun of the PPP ... to move similar motions against the media in the Senate, the National Assembly and three other provincial assemblies. Related: <a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=250326">PML-N apologises to media for resolution</a> <a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=250328">Tariq Butt Asks: Are the two Sharif brothers on the same page?</a> (Makes me wonder: Did Nawaz conveniently leave the country so he can say "It wasn't me -- I didn't know"???) kkswati on "Politics of Nawaz Sharif" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/politics-of-nawaz-sharif#post-161275 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 05:29:30 +0000 kkswati 161275@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ This column is worth reading about current political role of nawaz sharif..... <a href="http://www.dailyausaf.com/edi_detail.php?id=2776&art_id=71" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailyausaf.com/edi_detail.php?id=2776&art_id=71</a> Syed Kashif Nawaz on "SHOCKING NEWS: SUPPORT OF BANNED EXTREMIST OUTFITS FOR PPP TO WIN ELECTIONS" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/shocking-news-support-of-banned-extremist-outfits-for-ppp-to-win-elections#post-159179 Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:31:34 +0000 Syed Kashif Nawaz 159179@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ 25 MNAs of Ruling Pakistan People’s Party Parliamentarian (PPPP) had won 2008 elections with our support by our votes! This claim of a banned religious extremist outfit “Sipah-e-Sahaba” has appeared by its leader Mr. Ahmed Ludhyanvi during a recent interview to a Private TV Channel. This subsequently was published in various newspapers. <a href="http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010%5C06%5C21%5Cstory_21-6-2010_pg7_18" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010%5C06%5C21%5Cstory_21-6-2010_pg7_18</a> <a href="http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/21-Jun-2010/25-" rel="nofollow">http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/21-Jun-2010/25-</a> PPP-MNAs-elected-with-our-support-SSP The hidden and open links of several so-called political or religious right-wing parties of Pakistan was not a secrete, like Jamat-e-Islami, Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz Group and Imran Khan’s Tehreek-e-Insaf, who had been proved having links with TTP or Al-Qaida in the past, but it is the fist time when a banned religious extremist outfit not only claimed itself having links with Left Wing Secular Party like PPPP but also the members of the PPP have been found interacting with its leaders. As per Mr. Ahmed Ludhyanvi’s claim, following PPP’s MNA had been extended SSP’s Support during 2008 elections: Shah Mehmood Qureshi; (Foreign Minister) Chaudhri Iftikhar Nazeer; (Member Kashmir Committee) Mehmood Hayat; Sardar Abdul Qayyum Jatoi; (Federal Minister) Jamshed Dasti; Qamaruz Zaman Kaira; (Federal Minister) Chaudhry Asghar Jutt; Shahan Malik; Tasneem Qureshi; Nawab Khan Wasan; Fazal Ali Shah; Khursheed Shah; Mian Abdus Sattar; Shaikh Arif Aziz; Malik Farooq Azam; Malik Amir Yar Awan; Raheela Shahadat Baloch; Hayatullah Tareen; Moazzam Jatoi; Faisal Karim Kundi; (Deputy Speaker NA) Nouman Shaikh; Aftab Shabaan Meerani; Pir Aftab Hussain Shah Jilani; Amir Khan Magsi; Sardar Muhammad Goreej; (Here is the link of the program Insession of Dunya TV) <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4dUUy_Thw0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4dUUy_Thw0</a> He also claimed for several MNAs and MPAs of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) that they also were extended support during 2008 Elections. The claim have appeared at a time when Pakistan is not only fighting a war against Terror but also is a victim of the internal and external terrorism. The role of SSP in sectarian violence resulting in a complete ban on it is no more secret. Its affiliates have not only been found but also convicted in sectarian killings and terrorism against opponents! Pakistan has become a nursery for the growth and nourishment of Terrorists, specially Punjab and Khayber-Pakhtoonkhwa where the terrorism is at its extreme. People in Pakistan are a soft target for these terrorists. Pakistan Army and Security Agencies along with Civilian Administration are responsible to stop and coup-up with this terrorism, which not only is harming General Public but also damaging Country’s Economy and its reputation all around the world. Surprisingly, PPP which apparently is so vocal and was well known for its Secular and Liberal Policies have been exposed as a part of such a scandal of having links with banned terrorist outfit. Being in Government it is the responsibility of the PPP to crush the terrorism and terrorist organizations in the country, but is it really possible? If the leaders of PPP are themselves linked with the terrorists and they came into power with their votes and support is it really possible they could stop their ill-motives in the country? If we look into past, despite the fact TTP is involved into terrorism in Pakistan, the Govt. of PPP had had an agreement with the TTP Terrorists in Swat, resulted in more illegal and un-constitutional activities and terrorism there. Despite the fact PMLN is linked with SSP, TTP and Al-Qaida, PPP had had formed Federal as well as Punjab Government with it. Now, after this shocking revelation that PPP’s MNA were backed and supported by Banned Terrorist Organization SSP, where the credibility of PPP and its leaders stands? The international war against terror is not only important for international community, but is fundamental for the existence of Pakistan. It is obvious the target of the terrorists is the solidarity, economy, defense and public of Pakistan, but even if the Govt. supports these terrorists or Govt. Officials of Minister Level who are the Members Legislative Bodies are backed by these terrorists then who would assure the safety and defense of Pakistan and its people? Are not we, the Common Citizen of Pakistan, left completely isolated on the target of terrorists and their supported representatives? runaway on "Nawaz Sharif starts long march" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/nawaz-sharif-starts-long-march#post-147999 Fri, 14 May 2010 12:11:42 +0000 runaway 147999@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Nawaz Sharif has started long march. He walked three blocks on the famous Oxford Street of London. He said, he is in London to train for the long march in Pakistan against load shedding and inflation Soon ( in winter ) he will return to homeland and lead the nation. runaway on "Azad Adaliya : NAB plea on Sharifs references dismissed" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/azad-adaliya-nab-plea-on-sharifs-references-dismissed#post-145235 Mon, 03 May 2010 16:08:33 +0000 runaway 145235@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <a href="//www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=104082'">NAB plea on Sharifs references dismissed</a> The reason was not because the Court thought the cases were junk..instead on a technical issue. The court judge Wamiq Javed in his decision said that the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) petition for reopening of the reference was not signed by the NAB chairman so as the cases could not be reopened. runaway on "Nawaz Shareef's personal employees on payroll of Punjab Govt" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/nawazs-shareef-personal-employees-on-payroll-of-punjab-govt#post-136504 Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:58:57 +0000 runaway 136504@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Another PML-N scandal. <a href=""//www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=102071'"">Nawaz media team gets salary from Punjab govt</a> Recently one PML-N MNA had the police office suspended for stopping his car.. kq on "3rd Time PM bar to go says Gilani" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/3rd-time-pm-bar-to-go-says-gilani#post-106291 Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:58:01 +0000 kq 106291@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ <a href="http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/12-changes-made-by-dictators-to-be-scrapped-thirdtime-pm-bar-to-go%2C-says-gilani--bi-07" rel="nofollow">http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/12-changes-made-by-dictators-to-be-scrapped-thirdtime-pm-bar-to-go%2C-says-gilani--bi-07</a> No wonder Nawaz Sharif has been keeping mum and away from the spotlight! He's cutting deals with the PPP. swat on "Tragedy strikes free distribution of ration 18 women killed in Karachi stampede" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/tragedy-strikes-free-distribution-of-ration-18-women-killed-in-karachi-stampede#post-80068 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:01:14 +0000 swat 80068@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ I dont know how Altaf , Nawaz, Zardari, Fazlu and Asfandyar can sleep when the poor people are dying for food <a href="http://thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=24536" rel="nofollow">http://thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=24536</a> IJay on "Zardari rings Nawaz 1st time after CJ’s restoration" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/zardari-rings-nawaz-1st-time-after-cj%e2%80%99s-restoration#post-55937 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:33:32 +0000 IJay 55937@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Updated at: 0114 PST, Tuesday, July 14, 2009 Zardari rings Nawaz 1st time after CJ’s restoration ISLAMABAD: President Asif Ali Zardari called PML (N) chief Mian Nawaz Sharif on telephone on Monday evening. Spokesperson to presidency, former Senator Farhatullah Babar said the President thanked Mian Nawaz Sharif for his support to the internally displaced persons. The two leaders also agreed to meet in the near future, the Spokesperson KHAN_Sahib on "Aaj Kee TAAZA khabbar!!!" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/aaj-kee-taaza-khabbar#post-44500 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:21:47 +0000 KHAN_Sahib 44500@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Pentagon aur Obama may Ikhtalaaf! Pentagon wants General Kiyani to take over! While Obama says that if Zardari has to go then Nawaz should be given the chance! In Either case, there will be an Operation against MQM yet once again with high profile Executions... Hum tou pehlay hee kehtay thay kay Raseeee zayada lambee nahee hoe ghee... Daikhtay hain kay yeah aount kiss karwat baiththa hay! These news are authentic and straight from BIG HOUSE! ;-) Audit-Manager on "why americans have become darling to nawaz sharif" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/why-americans-have-become-darling-to-nawaz-sharif#post-40504 Mon, 25 May 2009 16:06:29 +0000 Audit-Manager 40504@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ every day and night americans and europians are meeting with nawaz sharif and his bro.it is strange that he is not convincing them to stop air attacks on pak land.after restoration of iftikhar chowdry by us govt and army,he has surely fallen to american legs. shame on such leaders . Heather_Ali on "Why Nawaz Shareef is Hiding in Rawand?" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/why-nawaz-shareef-is-hiding-in-rawand#post-40590 Mon, 25 May 2009 19:14:27 +0000 Heather_Ali 40590@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Why is he not visiting Swat? FATA? Karachi? Baluchistan? Why he visits London and Dubai more then the above parts of Pakistan? I actually agree with an earlier post of Khan Sahib that Nawaz shareef is the leader of Punjab Muslim league representing fraction of Punjabis. His political stature is decreasing day by day. MF.Khan on "Makhdoom Javed Hashmi - An honest leader who has been cornered" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/makhdoom-javed-hashmi-an-honest-leader-who-has-been-cornered#post-35674 Fri, 08 May 2009 04:47:27 +0000 MF.Khan 35674@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Makhdoom Javed Hashmi who was politically victimized and kept confined by Musharraf and Choudhry Group has been cornered in the party (PML-N). He is a threat to Mian Brothers as the potential alternative leadership of the party. He is the only MNA and nominated minister who clearly refused to take oath from Musharraf. Please comment.... -M MF.Khan on "PML (N) MNA Caught Cheating in FA Examination Room" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pml-n-mna-caught-cheating-in-fa-examination-room#post-34984 Tue, 05 May 2009 05:51:22 +0000 MF.Khan 34984@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Please read Javed Ch.'s article... Now its the time for Nawaz Sharif to be a role model and take the fair decision against the alleged complaint.He will have to prove that he and his party are really loyal to free and transparent justice system and wants the supremacy of the law in the Country MF.Khan on "Nawaz Sharif is emerging as a national leader in current crucial time" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/nawaz-sharif-is-emerging-as-a-national-leader-in-current-crucial-time#post-34523 Sun, 03 May 2009 10:08:47 +0000 MF.Khan 34523@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ I think the decisions made, the standing taken and the vision stated by Mr. Nawaz Sharif during last one year proofs that he is a capable and competent to lead the nation in this crucial time. He is capable and responsible than others KHAN_Sahib on "Zardari again managed to stay with an excellent Goal!" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/zardari-again-managed-to-stay-with-an-excellent-goal#post-29590 Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:58:58 +0000 KHAN_Sahib 29590@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ So nawaz welcomed Gilani! Issued a statement that he has nothing against Mr President and the only difference was restoration of CJ which is now resolved. He talks about cooparation in punjab and also in fedral govt! LOL I invite all the supporters of NS to discuss the role of this coward and previous traitor who is again going to join central govt soon(just watch this space... Just like before people on this forum criticised on my opinions ) Zardari is going to stay here now and IK and Qazi can also lick their wounds, yet once again.. How can u guys trust nawaz is beyond my comprehension.. KHAN_Sahib on "Another DRONE Attack on Pakhtoonistan (Does Any one care? ) Lets Celebrate March" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/another-drone-attack-on-pakhtoonistan-does-any-one-care-lets-celebrate-march#post-29062 Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:05:32 +0000 KHAN_Sahib 29062@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ While this nation celebrates the LONG MARCH! Somewhere in pakistan more people are killed By DRONE attacks by Americans! (Yes same Americans who gave Green Signal to Zardari for restoration of CJ and called Shahbaz shareef to reach ISL with full protocol while police was batton charging in Lahore) <a href="http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/mar2009-daily/15-03-2009/up120.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/mar2009-daily/15-03-2009/up120.gif</a> Nawaz Shareef has to prove this time that he is not just a leader of Punjab! Condemn and support people of Pakhtoonistan or one day people of Punjab will face these DRONES attack and rest of Pakistan will stay quite just like Punjab's leaders are quite on Drones attacks in pakhtoonistan. None of our so called leaders have courage to visit and have a LONG MARCh for these people who has been dumped by their own so called democratic govt and beloved ARMY whose every JAWAN takes an oath of protecting his motherland and its people. Guess! Pakhtoonistan and Baluchistan are not part of this ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN! KHAN_Sahib on "Nawaz Can't Dance SAALA" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/nawaz-cant-dance-saala#post-28896 Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:23:07 +0000 KHAN_Sahib 28896@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Zardari is a Lomra(Fox).Nawaz is a Khota(donkey) Salman Taseer is Chachora(cheap and uncouth)shahbaaz is arrogant idiot. Surely enough Nawaaz is not antiNational like the others and is not sold out (at the moment, considering his past) but he is Khota...... He is elabrating his personality which will subside sooner than later..If he had taken up issues and said 1.zardari is the killer of Benazir...because he knows who killed her as he said time and again but never told name.....(coz he cant give his name) 2.He killed benazirs brother murtaza 3.He fabricated the will of Benazir .Nawaz called her sister ,she never informed her will to brother 4.Benazir never informed Nahid khan her secretary of the will (Is it possible)....no This will discredit Zardari...nothing else Nawaaz should ask shahbaaz to have a quick march and refrain from vengeance and language. Nawaz Shareef and Imran Khan are risking their lives in the public.Any attack on them will be the act of Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), and will be beleived by all. The real mystery will never be solved,the public memory is short ,they wil forget in due course of time just the way the forgot the murder of BB. KHAN_Sahib on "No One Should Stay Home During Long March - Nawaz Sharif" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/no-one-should-stay-home-during-long-march-nawaz-sharif#post-25749 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:55:16 +0000 KHAN_Sahib 25749@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ DAIR AMMAD , DOURUST AMMAD, but I AM AFRAID, in Nawaz case, he wants to be part of this march to get political stature and benefit. In essence he is a Coward who left this country when this nation really needed him to stand against the Dictator but he choosed to save his thick skin and left this country. He then return after a Deal and after winning good mumber of seats, decides to only put all his effort and energy to save punjab’s govt (All of a sudden from a national leader he becomes a regional leader or dare I say, Leader of Punjabis) Not once he thought to leave this so called collation and come clean and oppose the joint pakistan and american Army operations in NWFP. Thousands of Pakhtoons are dead in last 5 years only in NWFP and millions homeless and displaced from their villages but our great leader and ex Ameer ul momeneen wannabie did not had the courage to stand up against Mussharaf and now Zardari. I am sorry but just by issuing statements in the media to stay in picture is utter Selfish, cowardness and not acceptable. People of Pakistan knows Zardari and co but also the coward leaders of Pakistan. Imran Khan should keep a distance from Nawaz shareef and co as PTI will have enough support on its own very soon. First PTI Govt will be formed in NWFP followed by Baluchistan, Punjab and Sindh (INSHALLAH) secular__pakistan on "This is what the real game is about" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/this-is-what-the-real-game-is-about#post-17291 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:02:44 +0000 secular__pakistan 17291@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Now, this is what the real game is all about. Mr. Nawaz Sharif and his PMLN have always wanted the judges to be restored and in that they would hit two birds with one stone; Zardari and Musharraf. Now, even though Musharraf is gone, Zardari is still there, and, Mr. Nawaz Sharif would like to see Justice Ch. Iftikhar return and repeal the NRO. Mr. Sharif would then detach from the "coalition" at an appropriate time and try to trigger an early election, hoping to cash in on his popularity. Also, Mr. Sharif needs a weak President who would allow the ban on the 3rd time premiership to be repealed (according to the 17th ammendment, removing this ban requires the Presidents approval). Mr. Zardari and his PPP on the other hand have made up their mind; Mr. Zardari has decided to become the President so that even if Mr. Sharif is successful in triggering an early election, Mr. Zardari himself as President will be the one holding these elections. And, if Mr. Sharif wins those elections and forms the govt, Mr. Zardari will be ready and armed with 58 2b to spoil their fun as the President will continue to be the President for the next 5 years, regardless of early elections and new govts. Otherwise, there would be no reason for Zardari as President to keep 58 2b, the Prime Minister, his Prime Minster can dissolve the govt. and the assemblies at any time. Also, a powerful President Zardari, who would remain President even if the govt. and the assemblies were dissolved and the country was heading for an election, would be able to keep his party under his thumb and spoil any plans Amin Fahim might have for taking charge of the PPP. Also, as long as Zardari is President, Mr. Sharif will not be able to remove the 3rd time ban on premiership. In addition to the above, Mr. Zardari can also use his governors to cause trouble in the provinces if the need be, specially in Punjab where the PMLN is the most powerful party. Perhaps there might soon be governor rule in Punjab in the PMLN gives the PPP trouble. It has been a week since Musharraf left, and, these politicians are already showing their true colors. pakistanpal on "Protests highlight Kashmir grievances" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/protests-highlight-kashmir-grievances#post-15336 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:09:48 +0000 pakistanpal 15336@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ By Chris Morris BBC News, Srinagar "It came as a bit of a shock. No-one was expecting it." Professor Noor Ahmad Baba of Kashmir University was as surprised as anyone else when the Kashmir Valley was suddenly rocked last week by what turned into nine days of the biggest Muslim street protests seen in the region for years. Only when the state government abandoned a controversial plan to transfer land to the trust which runs a Hindu shrine did the demonstrations come to an end. But they had already become a focus for wider protests about Kashmiri identity. Who gained from the events of the last two weeks? Well, Kashmiri separatist parties seem to have discovered a new-found unity. But the notable thing about the protests was that they encompassed Kashmiris of many political persuasions. 'Opportunism' "People are so frustrated," said Nawaz, a local businessman. "And the only thing they have left to defend is their land. That's why so many people came out and answered the call." The state government, though, is convinced that the demonstrations were all about political opportunism. The land transfer, said government minister Abdul Gani Vakil, was only going to be temporary. But when the people protested, the government listened. "We are going to the people on economic issues," Mr Vakil said. "The other parties use sentimental and religious issues. We are fighting all these forces, because we want to make Jammu and Kashmir a prosperous state." And in recent years there have been steps in the right direction. The talk is no longer of insurgency; it's of investment, jobs and career opportunities. Until the protests were suddenly triggered, the tourist trade was booming. But Kashmiri separatists insist that that's not enough. And the size of the recent protests suggests that on issues as sensitive as land and identity, plenty of people agree with them. Solution needed "Tulip gardens are being inaugurated, football matches are being held, yes all that is happening," said Mirwaiz Omar Farooq, one of Kashmir's main pro-independence politicians. "But the fact is that unless and until India addresses the sentiment for the resolution of the Kashmir issue I don't think you can have permanent peace in Kashmir." For now, things have returned to normal in Srinagar. Shops have re-opened, and fuel supplies have been replenished. But the repercussions of this new phase in Kashmiri protest are still spreading. Hindu nationalist groups in Jammu, and elsewhere in India, have held angry demonstrations against the state government, accusing it of giving in to separatism. On Thursday, protesters blocked roads and stopped trains in several Indian states. The danger is that communal tensions focusing on Kashmir could intensify in the run-up to a series of state and national elections. 'Message to Delhi' In Kashmir itself, people are wondering what will happen next. Enthusiasm for armed insurgency has long since faded, but demands for political freedom have not. The outside world often looks at the situation in Kashmir through the prism of the long-running dispute between India and Pakistan, and that is certainly a factor. But Kashmiris themselves want to have their say. And many of them feel they're being ignored. "This is a message to Delhi," said Professor Noor Ahmad Baba. "Don't under-estimate the degree of resentment which exists here. "Just because things are more peaceful now, it doesn't mean the problem of Kashmir has been solved." Story from BBC NEWS: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/7488136.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/7488136.stm</a> Published: 2008/07/04 08:48:52 GMT © BBC MMVIII pakistanpal on "Done deal?" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/done-deal#post-12219 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:31:50 +0000 pakistanpal 12219@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Ashsan Waheed On the surface, at least, a done deal is visible: another round of talks between the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League - Nawaz (PML-N) were scheduled in Dubai on Sunday April 28 as a prelude to a final draft resolution to be presented to PPP Co-Chairman, Asif Ali Zardari and PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif in Islamabad on April 30: the publicized deadline for the restoration of the judges dismissed under the 2007 November 3 Provisional Constitutional Order (PCO). Not expected, however, is that the judges will be restored on that given date. Forecast instead is an Executive Order issued by Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gillani on their reinstatement, with the modalities pending another ten days. The good news is that all of the sacked judges, including Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, are to be restored, to go by the statements of the Prime Minister. The PPP Information Minister Sherry Rehman, confirmed this, but pressed for the extension of the deadline. The bad news is that the lawyers leading the movement for the judges’ restoration threatened a nationwide strike if the judges were not resurrected by the publicized deadline of April 30. PPP Co-Chairman Asif Zardari has not helped matters along, by albeit correctly saying on the BBC World Service that the judiciary was politicized - that the judges should “provide justice and not play at politics”. But it was encouraging to have him predict “everyone would be happy with the constitutional package being prepared by the government”. And, with Nawaz Sharif alos reportedly agreeing to extend the reinstatement deadline to May 10, brighter prospects for a much needed agreement on a rapprochement appears on the anvil -- provided, of course, the protesting lawyers are persuaded there is no malafide in the delay. Against this, however, is a news item appearing in The Post on Monday April 29 which has the PML-N head assuring the Supreme Court Bar Association’s (SCBA) president, Aitizaz Ahsan, that the government would meet the April 30 deadline for the reinstatement of the judges per the Murree Declaration. That presents a grey area suggesting that on being resurrected, Justice Chaudhry may be persuaded leave the matter of President Musharraf’s legitimacy for Parliament to take a final decision on – which, in fact, may be the only way out of the impasse that stands in the way of the country moving towards a renaissance. pakistanpal on "Daunting tasks ahead" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/daunting-tasks-ahead#post-10462 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:35:19 +0000 pakistanpal 10462@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Arab News - 25 March, 2008 Pakistan\'s new prime minister, Bhutto loyalist Yousaf Raza Gilani, a former National Assembly speaker, has daunting tasks before him. He begins, however, with a strong mandate for his Pakistan People’s Party, which has wisely entered a coalition with Nawaz Sharif’s Pakistan Muslim League (N). Thus immediately the opportunity is there to short-circuit the bitter and damaging rivalry between these two parties, which historically has so disfigured and disrupted the country’s politics. This is a government of national unity at a time when, as never before, Pakistan’s politicians need to present a united front to terrorism. It therefore behooves Gilani to avoid a confrontation with President Pervez Musharraf at this time. Restoring the judges Musharraf fired, including Supreme Court Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, is an inevitable first step for the new premier. The return of the men who challenged the legitimacy of Musharraf’s presidential candidacy will be the final humiliation for the president whose own party was soundly beaten in the elections. But the country needs a working constitutional apparatus, even if it is imperfect. It is not the time to seek to drive Musharraf from office and alienate the armed forces. Gilani himself was jailed for five years by the military regime in their anti-corruption drive and probably entertains little liking for his head of state. PPP officials claim the charges were trumped up. That may be true. However, such has been the unenviable record of past governments of both the PPP and the Pakistan Muslim League that finding corrupt politicians was as easy as falling off the proverbial log. The priority now for Gilani is to build a stable coalition administration, establish workable relations with the president and knuckle down to tackling the very real threat of terrorism and lawlessness in the north of the country. The solution is very far from being an exclusively military one. Pakistan has suffered for too long from a lack of government investment in education and health. Inefficiency, compounded by graft, has blighted both economic and social development, and these failures have fostered the anger and despair upon which hardened terrorists and religious bigots have fed. What is needed therefore is a radical reforming package that will remove the bureaucratic burdens that assail private business and, in so doing, create jobs along with infrastructural investment to fix transportation and ports. This will lay the foundation for the country to catch up with India which has surged ahead economically in recent years. Because Gilani is working with his party’s normal political rival, Nawaz Sharif, such reforms have a good chance of sticking because they will have widespread political backing. The new premier must also hold out the hand of reconciliation to the frontier tribes, who have long been left to their own devices or bribed to allow the likes of the national oil company to operate in their areas. They must be engaged in the making of a new and prosperous Pakistan and they need to see early evidence that such is happening, rather than the traditional payola and incompetence of their country’s politics. youaskedforit on "Qazi Hussain" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/qazi-hussain#post-2788 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:45:39 +0000 youaskedforit 2788@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Hello, Ever thought why there is no threat to Qazi Hussain's life....when there is a threat to every leader life including Fazal-ur-Rehman Jamaat is trying to impose Islamic rule through supporting suicide bombings in Pakistan.... They were sending Jihadist in Kashmir and Afghanistan..it is a known fact...now the same "Jihadist" have become terrorist and destroying Pakistan. , and Jamaat is supporting them....Is it possible that they have been sending Jihadist allover the world and suddenly they dont know about who is doing these suicide bombings. Qazi wants Musharraf to go and impose his so called islamic rule...but luckily he does not have the majority of people with him to make government so he is supporting these terrorist who call themselves jihadist killing thousands of innocent man, children and woman in Afhganistan, Iraq and Pakistan. They are just making Pakistan weaker and weaker and when America will attack Pakistan for this reason that Al Quaida has become strong in Pakistan , then this **** Qazi will order his "Jihadist" to fight against America...and he will be happy that there are bombs allover Pakistan... that is what he calls "ISLAMIC LAW"...he will be the cheif then...thinking he ruling Pakistan. There have been news earlier that many Al Quaida leaders were living in the house of Jamaat's party members. The one man who should be arrested and interrogated is Qazi Hussain. irfanx on "New Goverment in Pakistan?" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/new-goverment-in-pakistan#post-8000 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:13:49 +0000 irfanx 8000@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Who do you think will be the new Government in Pakistan PPP or Nawaz and what will be the correlation between parties specially like ANP and MQM? And who do you think will make a better prime minister. Zardari Nawaz Amin fahim Aitzaz Hussain Javed Hasmi Fahim23 on "Is Pakistan a developing Country?" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/is-pakistan-a-developing-country#post-6495 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:22:09 +0000 Fahim23 6495@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Ant & Grasshopper Traditional Version The Ant works hard in the withering heat all summer building its house and laying up supplies for the winter. The Grasshopper thinks the Ant is a fool and laughs & dances & plays the summer away. Come winter, the Ant is warm and well fed. The Grasshopper has no food or shelter so he dies out in the cold. Modern Version The Ant works hard in the withering heat all summer building its house and laying up supplies for the winter. The Grasshopper thinks the Ant\'s a fool and laughs & dances & plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering Grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the Ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving. Geo TV, BBC, ARY, CNN show up to provide pictures of the shivering Grasshopper next to a video of the Ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. The World is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be that this poor Grasshopper is allowed to suffer so? Asma Jahangir stages a demonstration in front of the Ant\'s house. Imran Khan goes on a fast along with other Grasshoppers demanding that Grasshoppers be relocated to warmer climates during winter. Amnesty International and Chief Justice Iftikhar criticizes the Pakistan Government for not upholding the fundamental rights of the Grasshopper. The Internet is flooded with online petitions seeking support to the Grasshopper (many promising Heaven and Everlasting Peace for prompt support as against the wrath of God for non-compliance) . Opposition MPs stage a walkout. Islamic parties call for \'Hartal\' in Frontier and Baluchistan demanding a Judicial Enquiry. MQM Coalition in Sindh immediately passes a law preventing Ants from working hard in the heat so as to bring about equality of poverty among Ants and Grasshoppers. Sheikh Rasheed allocates one free coach to Grasshoppers on all Pakistan Railway Trains, aptly named as the \'Grasshopper Shalimar\'. Finally, the President drafts an ordinance \' Anti State Terrorism Against Grasshoppers Act\' [ASTAGA], with effect from the beginning of the winter. Mobilizes state agencies. Punjab Govt. makes \' Special Reservation \' for Grasshoppers in Educational Institutions & in Government Services. The Ant is fined for failing to comply with ASTAGA and having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, it\'s home is confiscated by the NAB and handed over to the Grasshopper in a ceremony covered by PTV. Nawaz Sharief calls it \' A Triumph of Justice \'. Benazir calls it \' Democratic Justice \'. MQM calls it the \' Revolutionary Resurgence of the Downtrodden\' Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz invites the Grasshopper to address the National Assembly. Many years later... The Ants have since migrated to the US , Canada , UK and Middle East, have worked harder then they did before set up a multi-million dollar business. 1000s of Grasshoppers still die of starvation despite reservation somewhere in Pakistan ... As a result of loosing lot of hard working Ants and feeding the Grasshoppers, ...... Pakistan is still a developing country !!! mypkpoliticsaccount on "Musharraf Rival (Nawaz Shaif) Linked to Bin Laden -- According to ABC news" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/musharraf-rival-nawaz-shaif-linked-to-bin-laden-according-to-abc-news#post-4746 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:15:09 +0000 mypkpoliticsaccount 4746@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ I want to know if I am the only one to miss this news earlier or others did miss this too. <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/11/musharraf-rival.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/11/musharraf-rival.html</a> I also want to know if PML-N or Nawaz Sharif himself responded to this news floating in the western media. irfanx on "British Scotland YArd requested to Investigate Bhutto case by Musharraf" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/british-scotland-yard-requested-to-investigate-bhutto-case-by-musharraf#post-1935 Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:35:30 +0000 irfanx 1935@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ Should we allow another country to investigate our own primary matters. I agree that government has provided us with conspiracies rather then any solid reasons for Bhutto's death but still we as a nation should have our own sovereignty? It reflects the mind set we have as still being colonial slaves mentally of the British Empire? What can be done to change that? What do you guys think? irfanx on "Benazir killed by whom and for what?" http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/benazir-killed-by-whom-and-for-what#post-1347 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:48:18 +0000 irfanx 1347@http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/ I dont get it she was not against establishment and she was definitely not against army. She was no good for pakistan so why would they kill some one like her, they need these kinda fools to give themn the country and then tell Pakistanis you cannot run a country ur not good enough. I seriously doubt she was killed by her own pack of wolfs. It cant be musharraf , nawaz or west this time i think it was REALLY a terrorist or a poor desperate Pakistani. Look at the irony people and the bad guys want the same thing now.