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<title>Haroon-ur-Rashid on "جنرل مشرف کو بغاوت کا سامنا"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2012/02/120208_mush_party_disintegrate_ra.shtml&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2012/02/120208_mush_party_disintegrate_ra.shtml&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;hasraat humain unn gunchoon pay hay joo bin khilay murjha gayee
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<title>M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI on "&#34;Musharaf a Chronically Failed Dictator.&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Musharaf a Chronically Failed Dictator.&#60;br /&#62;
KARGIL WAR.&#60;br /&#62;
Even before becoming the dictator, just for lust of his personnel fame, he was responsible for the adventure of Kargil war, which was having following draw backs.&#60;br /&#62;
•	As both India and Pakistan were nuclear armed at the time of Kargil war, it was simply foolish idea for staging such an adventure.&#60;br /&#62;
•	In case of extension of Kargil war, even the survival of both India and Pakistan were at stake, because in nuclear war no one will be victorious.&#60;br /&#62;
•	Kargil war has given the message to world as Pakistan was interested in the land of Kargil and not in the liberation of Kashmiri peoples.&#60;br /&#62;
•	It was told to the world as Mujahideen are acting in Kargil while infact they were the personnel of Pakistan army, and in fact it was great betrayal with those soldiers who were officially sent by their Generals in Kargil.&#60;br /&#62;
•	As a General Pervez Musharaf failed to take the help of Air force, which also indicates that how much capable General was he.&#60;br /&#62;
•	In Kargil Pakistan army personnel who were denied even by their Generals as their soldiers, were fighting against two forces of India i.e. Indian army and Indian Air force, it was a simple analysis that it will be impossible for one force to win a war against two forces. Which clearly indicates, that General Musharaf was not well aware of the basics of warfare?&#60;br /&#62;
•	Pervez Musharaf was solely responsible for the deaths and injuries to soldiers in this conflict and damage and malignment of the nation due to his foolish adventure just for his personnel fame.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Musharaf Dictatorship.&#60;br /&#62;
After Kargil expecting that he could be court martialled for his misdeed, Therefore by violating the best interest of the nation when enemies of Pakistan were waiting for opportunities to overthrow Taliban rule in Afghanistan, and to annihilate Kashmir libration movement and to surgically remove nuclear arms of Pakistan, by having no care of the above mentioned interests of the nation ,this dictator staged the coup against a Prime Minister who was having two third majority in the parliament, at that time only a civilian government was in best position to solve all above challenges but foolish dictators were having no care of interests of the nation.&#60;br /&#62;
Kashmir;&#60;br /&#62;
Due to Dictator Ship in Pakistan, liberation movement in Kashmir was seriously damaged; more dust was poured on that weakening movement by foolish suggestions of this dictator. This is the reason that even after giving so much sacrifices, still Kashmiries are waiting for freedom.&#60;br /&#62;
Damage to Integrity of Pakistan:&#60;br /&#62;
As the survival of any nation depends on the basic ideology of that nation, as Pakistan was created on the name of Islam and for the welfare of Muslim populations of Different areas, but this dictator was having no respect for the traditional, religious. Democratic&#60;br /&#62;
and justice values of society, he was not in line with the mentality and thinking of the nation, nation was thinking in one direction and he was having mind of opposite direction, which caused serious damage to unity and integrity of Pakistani nation.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;War against Afghanistan:&#60;br /&#62;
After 9/11 When he was waiting for help of USA for strengthening his dictatorship, he helped those enemies of Pakistan who were having desire to overthrow Islamic Government of Afghanistan, while in fact that was a golden opportunity for convincing to USA and world that solution to the problem of extremism in Afghanistan should be left to both governments of Afghanistan and Pakistan, and at other hand it was a convenient opportunity for creating a union between Pakistan and Afghanistan for countering terrorism for the purpose of avoiding the war in the region. but due to his dictatorship these goals were not possible, specially when India the main enemy of Muslim unity in South Asia pressurized Pakistan, by giving unnatural offer of Air bases in India to USA for aggression against Afghanistan while in fact by this offer it was not possible for USA to attack Afghanistan, by this offer, India just aim was to force Pakistan to become an ally of USA against Afghanistan, so that a hatred may be created between Pakistan and Afghanistan, This foolish General was unable to comprehend this policy of India, due to which so much civilian atrocities are going on in this region even today and this region has become the most destabilized region of the world.&#60;br /&#62;
War against Afghanistan was opposed by civilian, military intellectuals, Corps Commanders and people of Pakistan, but dictator was having no care about that. and was interested in his personnel interest&#60;br /&#62;
War against Afghanistan has caused a huge destruction in Afghanistan and large number of Pakistani civilians and military personnel’s have been killed.&#60;br /&#62;
Destruction of Pakistan.&#60;br /&#62;
War against a neighbor Muslim country, has seriously damaged Pakistan Islamic Ideology, and it is simple that without adherence to ideology, no country in the world can survive, this is the reason that now Pakistan is facing serious problem in each and every sphere of life, Institutions of Government and Military, Parliament and Judiciary are now facing serious problems as all these pillars of state have been seriously damaged by dictatorial policies.&#60;br /&#62;
Damage to Army:&#60;br /&#62;
Due to operations against its own population, Pakistan Army has lost all support of people, this is the reason that due to policies of this dictator, daily so many soldiers and Police personnel’s are loosing their lives, Instead of protecting and helping to each other, Army and people of Pakistan are cutting throats of each other, Due to operation in FATA, Balouchistan, and operation of Lal Mosque, serious damage to image of army has occurred. This dictator did not know that only relation and link between different areas and sections of people of Pakistan is that of Islam, All energy and motivation of Pakistani nation comes from Islam, without that even survival of Pakistan is simply impossible, but this dictator was having no care of that, This is the reason that army and security forces have lost all motivation, and anti social elements are committing freely their crimes.&#60;br /&#62;
Damage to Judicial system:&#60;br /&#62;
This under graduate General has caused serious damage to Judicial system of Pakistan, He was not knowing that in history when a dictator throw away any judge on street due to fair practices of justice then that Judge becomes the greatest judge of history, In Karachi on 12-05-2007,so many civilians were killed just to damage and abuse the&#60;br /&#62;
Judicial system of Pakistan.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Damage to Parliament:&#60;br /&#62;
This dictator for the lust of power in 1999 removed a prime minister who was having Two Third majority in Parliament and a fake referendum was held to validate his dictatorship in which he showed that he was having support of 98 % of people, while in fact in history even in a single constituency of Pakistan it is simply not possible for any candidate to win so much support. He re-elected himself as a president for next five years, being a government employee wearing Military Uniform, while as per Pakistan constitution it is not allowed to compete elections being in job of Government, moreover from a parliament which already has elected him president once, and was going to complete its life just in next few months.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Conclusion: From all above analysis it is clear that running of the country should be done by those who are specially trained for that purpose otherwise Military Generals, who are trained just to kill or destroy the enemy, when they come to the power they do the same thing with their nation and they are very fond of wars and very interested in show of power with guns, such type of people may be very dangerous for the nation, army and world at large. It is also the responsibility of Army as an institution to clarify that why so much conveniently it becomes obedient to such rogue dictators.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Written By M.Akram Khan.&#60;br /&#62;
Karachi,Pakistan&#60;br /&#62;
E.Mail :akrumniazi@hotmail.com
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<title>iamsowise on "Britain lobbies Pakistan to spare Pervez Musharraf treason charge"</title>
<link>http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/britain-lobbies-pakistan-to-spare-pervez-musharraf-treason-charge#post-98582</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The party of Pakistan&#38;#39;s opposition leader Nawaz Sharif has accused Britain and the US of negotiating secret guarantees to spare Pervez Musharraf from treason charges. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sir Mark Lyall Grant, political director of the Foreign Office and a former High Commissioner in Islamabad, was reported to have visited the former premier Nawaz Sharif and urged him not to press for Mr Musharraf to be extradited to Pakistan to face trial over his imposition of emergency rule in November 2007. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sir Mark played a key a role in the reconciliation process which allowed the late Benazir Bhutto and her husband, President Asif Zardari, to return to the country with the threat of corruption charges lifted. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;British sources denied Sir Mark had intervened on behalf of Mr Musharraf, who now lives in London, but stressed the need to avoid any &#38;quot;distraction&#38;quot; from creating regional stability. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Despite Britain&#38;#39;s intervention, Mr Sharif appears determined to bring Mr Musharraf back from the UK, where he is staying under Pakistani government protection, to face a trial for treason under Article 6 of its constitution. If convicted he would face the death penalty. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/6017290/Britain-lobbies-Pakistan-to-spare-Pervez-Musharraf-treason-charge.html&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/6017290/Britain-lobbies-Pakistan-to-spare-Pervez-Musharraf-treason-charge.html&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Why double standard??? Britain always raise loud voice against dictator Mogabe rule but on the other side they are supporting dictator Musharaf.&#60;br /&#62;
and&#60;br /&#62;
Is Musharaf staying in Britian under Pakistani govt protection?
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<title>flounder on "Vandalism by Pak Army Officers: We are still “Bloody” Civilians ?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;My opinion about a story shared on pkpolitics about missbehave of army officer to the IDPs and administrator of one of the camp!&#60;br /&#62;
I would like to hear other side of story as well!
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<title>Londonistan on "Chairman CBR Abdullah Yusuf Senior Most Bureaucrat Dancing in front of Musharaf/"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 09:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Fahim23 on "Is Pakistan a developing Country?"</title>
<link>http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/is-pakistan-a-developing-country#post-6495</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Fahim23</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Ant &#38;#38; Grasshopper&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Traditional Version&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Ant works hard in the withering heat all summer building its house and laying up supplies for the winter.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Grasshopper thinks the Ant is a fool and laughs &#38;#38; dances &#38;#38; plays the summer away.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Come winter, the Ant is warm and well fed. The Grasshopper has no food or shelter so he dies out in the cold.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Modern Version&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Ant works hard in the withering heat all summer building its house and laying up supplies for the winter.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Grasshopper thinks the Ant\'s a fool and laughs &#38;#38; dances &#38;#38; plays the summer away. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Come winter, the shivering Grasshopper calls a press conference and&#60;br /&#62;
demands to know why the Ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Geo TV, BBC, ARY, CNN show up to provide pictures of the shivering&#60;br /&#62;
Grasshopper next to a video of the Ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The World is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be that this poor Grasshopper is allowed to suffer so? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Asma Jahangir stages a demonstration in front of the Ant\'s house.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Imran Khan goes on a fast along with other Grasshoppers demanding that Grasshoppers be relocated to warmer climates during winter.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Amnesty International and Chief Justice Iftikhar criticizes the Pakistan Government for not upholding the fundamental rights of the Grasshopper.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Internet is flooded with online petitions seeking support to the Grasshopper (many promising Heaven and Everlasting Peace for prompt support as against the wrath of God for non-compliance) .&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Opposition MPs stage a walkout. Islamic parties call for \'Hartal\' in Frontier and Baluchistan demanding a Judicial Enquiry.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;MQM Coalition in Sindh immediately passes a law preventing Ants from working hard in the heat so as to bring about equality of poverty among Ants and Grasshoppers.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sheikh Rasheed allocates one free coach to Grasshoppers on all Pakistan Railway Trains, aptly named as the \'Grasshopper Shalimar\'.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Finally, the President drafts an ordinance \' Anti State Terrorism&#60;br /&#62;
Against Grasshoppers Act\' [ASTAGA], with effect from the beginning of the winter. Mobilizes state agencies.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Punjab Govt. makes \' Special Reservation \' for Grasshoppers in&#60;br /&#62;
Educational Institutions &#38;#38; in Government Services.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Ant is fined for failing to comply with ASTAGA and having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, it\'s home is confiscated by the NAB and handed over to the Grasshopper in a ceremony covered by PTV.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Nawaz Sharief calls it \' A Triumph of Justice \'.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Benazir calls it \' Democratic Justice \'.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;MQM calls it the \' Revolutionary Resurgence of the Downtrodden\'&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz invites the Grasshopper to address the&#60;br /&#62;
National Assembly.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Many years later...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Ants have since migrated to the US , Canada , UK and Middle East, have worked harder then they did before set up a multi-million dollar business.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;1000s of Grasshoppers still die of starvation despite reservation&#60;br /&#62;
somewhere in Pakistan ... As a result of loosing lot of hard working Ants and feeding the Grasshoppers, ......&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Pakistan is still a developing country !!!
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